Official 2016 Draft Thread

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Question what is the big difference between Ellenson and Sabonis.

Defense and scoring efficiency.

[kekgeek]

Question what is the big difference between Ellenson and Sabonis.

Defense and scoring efficiency.

Thank you, I like Ellenson so I am just curious if you believe his scoring efficiency goes up when he is not the guy. I know he shot bad from three but I see the potential he has. He just reminds me of a Julius randle type player. I have seen Sabonis one all year so I didn't get a good read on him. You would know better than me Cam they is went I asked just wondering if his efficiency was up because he played with wjiter.

[bleedspeed]

I dont think Ellenaon gets his repsect here but I would take Sabonis and Poetl over him. I dont think he is a good enough shooter to make up for what he lacks in defense. If he is your pf teams will PNR him a ton.

[TheFuture]

What about Sabonis is so intriguing? I think he's an above average rebounder but why are some talking lottery range?

I'll start off answering you with my own question. What guys slated to go in the 7-14 range intrigue you more than Sabonis?

Now, to answer about why I am high on Sabonis. First off, saying he's an above average rebounder is just not true considering he ranked 4th in the whole NCAA in total rebounds (2nd in defensive rebounds). In fact, in the whole NCAA he ranked 9th in 2pt FG%, 7th in defensive win shares, 8th in total win shares, and 17th in player efficiency rating. Outside of rebounding, Sabonis brings a lot to the table. Yes, he played in the WCC, but was in the top 5 for the WCC in nearly every advanced stat category, and maintained or even improved on those numbers vs. other competition. See the Gonzaga vs Utah NCAA matchup, where Sabonis dominated Poeltl, who will go top 10, to the tune of allowing him only 5 shots total and 4 rebounds. Sabonis isn't an athlete, but has a NBA ready body at 240 lbs, and a very high basketball IQ. The rebounds do not come by being a better athlete than everybody, he finds a man to put a body on and secures space. Sabonis is not going to rim protect, he's going to stay on his feet on fakes and maintain good position. His offensive game is advanced in the post, and shows potential to find range on his jumpshot. Sabonis may not have the same amount of all-star potential like some other players in the 7-14 range, but his bust range is significantly lower than all of them, in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong. I think Sabonis is a good player. I just see him more of a role player at the next level.

I like Skal Labissiere, Wade Baldwin, Timothe Luwawu, and Deyonta Davis in the 7-14 range.

I see him as a roleplayer as well, a hardworking glue guy with potential to be a starter. It would be a perfect fit to add to our core. Skal and Davis are great prospects, with higher potential than Sabonis, but they are far less proven as players. They would both be in my top 10 for bust potential. I was intrigued with Baldwin early in the season, but I am completely against taking him in the top 20 now. I can't speak on Luwawu, as I have done very little research on him.

[bleedspeed]

Sabonis or Portis?

[Monster]

Sabonis or Portis?

Portis because in theory he has the skill set do everything you want a PF to do. I don't see any scenario where the Bulls are going to give up Portis he fits what they are looking to do there (not sure where he wouldn't fit) in pretty much every way.

[Monster]

I dont think Ellenaon gets his repsect here but I would take Sabonis and Poetl over him. I dont think he is a good enough shooter to make up for what he lacks in defense. If he is your pf teams will PNR him a ton.

His shot just looks really good and he rebounds is young and actually has the length and frame to be a C. His defense isn't great and won't be a rim protector but a possible sweet shooting C that can rebound? Sounds pretty good especially outside the top 10 when he is being mocked right now.

[bleedspeed]

CHINANU ONUAKU seems like a good get in the second round. More of what I think we need as a backup center or a center that can play next to Towns.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chinanu-Onuaku-7254/

[TheFuture]

CHINANU ONUAKU seems like a good get in the second round. More of what I think we need as a backup center or a center that can play next to Towns.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chinanu-Onuaku-7254/

Yeah, I like both Onuaku and Hammons in the early 2nd.

[bleedspeed]

Hammons is interesting. He sounds like a guy that needs to land in the right spot.