Official 2016 Draft Thread

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I think there will be pretty good options at 8: Luwawu, Baldwin, Valentine, Poeltl could all potentially be available. so I'm not averse to trading back a little. Seth Curry is a guy I mentioned signing as a free agent last year but the idea was shot down quickly so I find it interesting that some now want to acquire him. He's a free agent though so he's not really a trade target. McLemore shot 42% beyond the arc in college and had a superb TS% and he has the athleticism to be a plus defender. He hasn't shown much fire though and the big question is whether Thibs could get it out of him. Casspi is the better player now, but McLemore has the higher upside. Both players are on their final year so their trade value isn't worth much unless we could extend them cheaply. Alternatively, we could seek a future first rounder with some protection as the price for trading down.
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TeamRicky wrote:I think there will be pretty good options at 8: Luwawu, Baldwin, Valentine, Poeltl could all potentially be available. so I'm not averse to trading back a little. Seth Curry is a guy I mentioned signing as a free agent last year but the idea was shot down quickly so I find it interesting that some now want to acquire him. He's a free agent though so he's not really a trade target. McLemore shot 42% beyond the arc in college and had a superb TS% and he has the athleticism to be a plus defender. He hasn't shown much fire though and the big question is whether Thibs could get it out of him. Casspi is the better player now, but McLemore has the higher upside. Both players are on their final year so their trade value isn't worth much unless we could extend them cheaply. Alternatively, we could seek a future first rounder with some protection as the price for trading down.


Good job on being a Seth curry guy. I was skeptical (yay he torn up summer league....) but I now have watched him do that stuff in real NBA games that's worth something. You are right he is a FA but it looks like the Kings have a qualifying offer so I assume that means he would be a RFA so unless someone threw some absolutely crazy number at him and you didn't want to match you could lock him in so Inwould see that as something worthwhile to get in a trade if you valued him as a player.
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Boston has 3 first round picks and 5 second round picks. There is no way they are taking 8 players or take a certain number of players and trade out of all those picks even if they draft and stash some guys. I would think they will end up having to sell at least one pick. Hopefully the Wolves could get one and get a player they really like.
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Lots of trade options. I'm intrigued by the possibility of getting two of Denver's 3 picks. They have 7, 15 and 19. I would offer 5 and Bazz for 7 and 19. I'd consider 5 for 15 and 19 too. Toronto, Boston, Philly and Phoenix all hold multiple picks too.
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TeamRicky wrote:Lots of trade options. I'm intrigued by the possibility of getting two of Denver's 3 picks. They have 7, 15 and 19. I would offer 5 and Bazz for 7 and 19. I'd consider 5 for 15 and 19 too. Toronto, Boston, Philly and Phoenix all hold multiple picks too.


I think Bazz is worth a non lottery pick alone to the right team. (more like 18-24)
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monsterpile wrote:Ok let's say the Kings want to trade up to #5 and they give you some reasonable combination of guys or a guy out of

Collison
Casspi
Curry
Ben Mac
Belineili

Who are you targeting to get at #8?

Me based on what info I have now I go with BBA (best big available)

I'm going Davis. It won't pay immediate results, but I'm playing the long game.
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khans2k5 wrote:The one thing about McLemore that people have to remember is his formative years have involved a new coach and system every season. It's hard enough to become good in one system, let alone good in a new one every year. I definitely think he's worth a flier in any trade with the Kings. A lot of role players figure it out a little later in their careers and while a big number don't make it all, it's not a big cost to take a flier on him. If you can get Collison, McLemore and their pick for our pick I think that'd be a decent deal if we don't really love anyone at 5.


Well yes, if he's a throw-in then why the heck not. We need SG depth. But I wouldn't accept him as the main centerpiece in exchange for trading down in the draft.

I also think talent shines through coaches and systems, so to use that as an excuse as to why he's not been productive is a little dubious. The biggest thing to me is that he's played 6,000 NBA minutes, so it's not like he been unjustly buried on the bench and no one really knows what he's got. He's had plenty of opportunity to improve and shine.
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Monster -- to answer your question, any draft related trades involving players are done under the current salaries and cap numbers.

Given the youth already on our team AND the squeeze on roster spots (due to KG and Pek uncertainties), I think Thibs and Layden would be hard pressed to add another "project" player from the draft. And any freshman added at the #5 pick (or lower) will be a project player.

Dunn and Heild are two players that Thibs may not view as "project" players. It's a pretty solid bet at least one, if not both, are available at #5, but trading down even a few spots may cost you a chance at either one.

To me, the most likely scenario is drafting one of those two players, or trading out of this years first round completely (with a vet and/or future draft pick coming back). Trading back in this years draft seems unlikely.
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I'm only watching highlights, but Dunn kind of reminds me of Iman Shumpert. I like Iman Shumpert.

But I'm still leaning toward Hield if we keep the 5th and he's available. We need 3 point shooting in the worst way.
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Just not a fan of Dunn and have my concerns about Heild. I would go Heild over for me. I wonder if Denzel Valentine can play PG in the NBA. I am sure he would struggle guarding PG at this level.

Interested in why people like Deyonta Davis over Marquese Chriss. Chriss seems like he has higher upside.
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