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[Lipoli390]

Anyone watching the Kings-Spurs game. Belly started the KIngs off with a long three that he took without any hesitation. A far cry from the guy who seemed afraid to shot threes with the Wolves. But of course, under Thibodeau, everyone on the Wolves repeatedly hesitated before taking threes. Ryan Saunders has a lot of work to break old habits drilled into them by Thibodeau and create a new culture.

[Lipoli390]

Just got done watching the Bucks butcher, and i mean butcher the nets in Brooklyn. Since AD has listed the Bucks as someone he would sign with long term, they at least have to try. I'd offer Middleton, DJ Wilson, Thon Maker, Divencenzo, and Sterling Brown. And then take on a bad contract and add a couple #1 picks. Giannis / Davis / Brogdon / Bledsoe / Lopez = Eastern Conference Champions

Then again, the Bucks are leading the East with what they have with supporting depth and draft picks for the future. Middleton is a floor stretcher and ball-handler to complement Giannis. Then there's the issue of AD's durability or lack thereof. I don't know. Maybe the Bucks should take a pass.

[Coolbreeze44]

Just got done watching the Bucks butcher, and i mean butcher the nets in Brooklyn. Since AD has listed the Bucks as someone he would sign with long term, they at least have to try. I'd offer Middleton, DJ Wilson, Thon Maker, Divencenzo, and Sterling Brown. And then take on a bad contract and add a couple #1 picks. Giannis / Davis / Brogdon / Bledsoe / Lopez = Eastern Conference Champions

Then again, the Bucks are leading the East with what they have with supporting depth and draft picks for the future. Middleton is a floor stretcher and ball-handler to complement Giannis. Then there's the issue of AD's durability or lack thereof. I don't know. Maybe the Bucks should take a pass.

Well they are good, no doubt. But if you've got Giannis and Davis you are almost certain to contend for the next 5 years regardless who you line up next to them. And of course those two would also act as a magnet for another star. I'm not saying they should do it, just that it's worth making the call.

[Lipoli390]

Just got done watching the Bucks butcher, and i mean butcher the nets in Brooklyn. Since AD has listed the Bucks as someone he would sign with long term, they at least have to try. I'd offer Middleton, DJ Wilson, Thon Maker, Divencenzo, and Sterling Brown. And then take on a bad contract and add a couple #1 picks. Giannis / Davis / Brogdon / Bledsoe / Lopez = Eastern Conference Champions

Then again, the Bucks are leading the East with what they have with supporting depth and draft picks for the future. Middleton is a floor stretcher and ball-handler to complement Giannis. Then there's the issue of AD's durability or lack thereof. I don't know. Maybe the Bucks should take a pass.

Well they are good, no doubt. But if you've got Giannis and Davis you are almost certain to contend for the next 5 years regardless who you line up next to them. And of course those two would also act as a magnet for another star. I'm not saying they should do it, just that it's worth making the call.

I hear you, Cool. It would be a close call for me. I was just making the case against the deal you suggested. But I could see myself making the deal if I were the Bucks' PBO. If I were the Pelicans, I'd take the deal with the Lakers.

[Lipoli390]

I'm really impressed iwht the Kings. They have a really nice young course in Fox, Bagley, Hield, Cauley-Stein, Justin Jackson, Bogsanovic and Harry Giles III. More than anything, I love they play - great ball movement, great pace, and shooting with confidence, emphasizing shots behind the arc and in the paint.

[Lipoli390]

I love the way the Kings closed out the first half. Fox and Hield are a great backcourt tandem. Both are excellent ballhandlers who can score or create for others.

[crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]]

I'm really impressed iwht the Kings. They have a really nice young course in Fox, Bagley, Hield, Cauley-Stein, Justin Jackson, Bogsanovic and Harry Giles III. More than anything, I love they play - great ball movement, great pace, and shooting with confidence, emphasizing shots behind the arc and in the paint.

And all it took was a coach to realize the strengths and weaknesses of his players and then choose to build around it. The complete opposite of what the wolves do.

[Monster]

Just got done watching the Bucks butcher, and i mean butcher the nets in Brooklyn. Since AD has listed the Bucks as someone he would sign with long term, they at least have to try. I'd offer Middleton, DJ Wilson, Thon Maker, Divencenzo, and Sterling Brown. And then take on a bad contract and add a couple #1 picks. Giannis / Davis / Brogdon / Bledsoe / Lopez = Eastern Conference Champions

Then again, the Bucks are leading the East with what they have with supporting depth and draft picks for the future. Middleton is a floor stretcher and ball-handler to complement Giannis. Then there's the issue of AD's durability or lack thereof. I don't know. Maybe the Bucks should take a pass.

Well they are good, no doubt. But if you've got Giannis and Davis you are almost certain to contend for the next 5 years regardless who you line up next to them. And of course those two would also act as a magnet for another star. I'm not saying they should do it, just that it's worth making the call.

I hear you, Cool. It would be a close call for me. I was just making the case against the deal you suggested. But I could see myself making the deal if I were the Bucks' PBO. If I were the Pelicans, I'd take the deal with the Lakers.

Sorry Cool but I don't think that Bucks package is gonna get it done if the Lakers are basically offering everything.

[Monster]

I'm really impressed iwht the Kings. They have a really nice young course in Fox, Bagley, Hield, Cauley-Stein, Justin Jackson, Bogsanovic and Harry Giles III. More than anything, I love they play - great ball movement, great pace, and shooting with confidence, emphasizing shots behind the arc and in the paint.

And all it took was a coach to realize the strengths and weaknesses of his players and then choose to build around it. The complete opposite of what the wolves do.

And that coach was rumored to be on the hot seat earlier and now there is a mocking hashtag #firejoerger. Meanwhile look at the stats of that team last year. They have completely changed the way they play. It's easy to ask for results right away but sometimes that's not how it works. Maybe SOME patience could be in order.

[Monster]

Anyone watching the Kings-Spurs game. Belly started the KIngs off with a long three that he took without any hesitation. A far cry from the guy who seemed afraid to shot threes with the Wolves. But of course, under Thibodeau, everyone on the Wolves repeatedly hesitated before taking threes. Ryan Saunders has a lot of work to break old habits drilled into them by Thibodeau and create a new culture.

I'm not disagreeing that the culture absolutely needs to be changed but Belly's 3 point shooting as a King doesn't seem like a great example of some revelation there compared to playing under Thibs. He is still taking the same amount per 36 mins he did here and while his season percentage is a little higher than last season he has been shooting around 37% from 3 over the past couple of months (he short poorly in January overall FG%). I'd hope if Ryan makes some sort of difference it would be more dramatic than this example. I think your point about Belly's success and culture of compared to Thibs would be more of a guy starting and playing important minutes on a surprise team in the West.

I think a more fair criticism of Thibs wasn't the 3 point shooting as much as getting the most out of most of the talent on the roster including flaws. I gave him the benefit of the doubt because I didn't think everything he did was horrendous but there was an inescapable issue of how the team and some players didn't seem to really find themselves. That's not gonna happen with everyone on a roster (Omri Casspi wouldn't take 3's...for the WARRIORS last year!!! Lol) and the whole team all the time even with a great coach and great players. We can hope to see it happen more with whoever is coaching this team. Last year the Wolves won ugly at times but it felt like they could have won better and in a more cohesive way more often. I think you can win/compete in sort of an ugly way that feels more like a team. I feel like we may have seen some of those already especially considering the roster with the injuries. You don't always have to wildly change what some players do to be successful but put players in positions to succeed and instill overall confidence. Ryan Saunders seems to be trying to do those types of things based on his rotations and what he says publically. Like I said in another post this may all take time and we may need to have some patience. I don't know if Ryan is the right guy or not but I also don't see anyone I'm dying to hire as head coach of him based on who is currently available. If Thibs was still the coach here the best option I could come up with would be hiring Luke Walton if/when the Lakers fire him. It would be great if Ryan was the right guy here even if we didn't win a championship but went on a run of legit respectability where were were a top 5 team every year for 10+ years and made some pretty good playoff runs...sorry my dreaming is getting a it out of hand here...let me get out of the clouds... lol