The Butler Didn't Do It

[thedoper]

I'm not sure anyone really knows the true issue between Kawhi and the Spurs, except for those directly involved. A lot of he said, she said. I'd take Kawhi any day on my team.

It's not about his talent. Obviously, he's a boon to have on any team.

But refusing to work when you're being paid tens of millions to do so... is a bit unseemly for me. Was it injury-related? Maybe. Maybe not.

Refusing to work if it is injury related isn't unseemly at all. If that is his story why question it? I think it was a major oversight by San Antonio to doubt it and they paid the price for it. I bet if they could do it all over again they just would have played it liked they believed him and their staff and vets would have kept their mouths shut.

As noted, maybe he really was injured.

I dunno. Nobody does. But I do know that Leonard advocated for his own doctors. They didn't seem to do their jobs very well. And I do know that he distanced himself from teammates... who had nothing to do with the squabble.

So there's that.

Tony Parker said publicly that he played through a much worse injury than Kawhi. I'd say he had something to do with the squabble pretty directly. If a teammate called me out publicly like that I'd distance myself too. Yes no one knows, which makes me personally pause to cast judgement on Kawhi for his actions.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2018/03/23/spurs-tony-parker-quad-injury-hundred-times-worse-kawhi-leonard/453946002/

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/11/23/16693304/kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-history-timeline-spurs-gregg-popovich

I would rather have Jimmy blow everything up than a guy who strings you along all year long and then gets mad when he's called out for it so he doesn't step on the court again when he could have.

SB Nation lol

Sports Illustrated posted basically the same article as well. Turns out you don't need a Pulitzer to aggregate reports outlining a timeline. Who knew?

[ItsJustSoSab]

Pretty sure Jimmy left our board after he got traded

But dumb fucks who still suppo

What's interesting about that series was... the hero was Kawhi Leonard.

Another selfish malcontent who kept an NBA fanbase hostage.

I've never heard him characterized in that manner.

Then you've never talked to a Spurs fan

[Coolbreeze44]

Devils advocacy on this board is so ingrained that you can actually find posters willing to go to bat for Jimmy Butler. What is wrong with some of you? I mean you do care about the Wolves franchise don't you? I would assume you do since so much time is spent posting here. The democratic congress has nothing on some of you people.

[Coolbreeze44]

AOC, is that you?

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

Devils advocacy on this board is so ingrained that you can actually find posters willing to go to bat for Jimmy Butler. What is wrong with some of you? I mean you do care about the Wolves franchise don't you? I would assume you do since so much time is spent posting here. The democratic congress has nothing on some of you people.

Was he wrong with his criticisms of the team? No. Did he tell Thibs he wanted out and Thibs refused to listen until it became untenable? Yes. You have a lot of hate for a guy who gave the organization a chance to prevent the PR disaster it became and they chose to ignore it so he blew it up. Sorry we aren't that petty to baby rage every time Jimmy is on a TV screen because he exposed some big time flaws in our players and organization and both proceeded to do jack shit to prove him wrong when he left.

[Coolbreeze44]

Devils advocacy on this board is so ingrained that you can actually find posters willing to go to bat for Jimmy Butler. What is wrong with some of you? I mean you do care about the Wolves franchise don't you? I would assume you do since so much time is spent posting here. The democratic congress has nothing on some of you people.

Was he wrong with his criticisms of the team? No. Did he tell Thibs he wanted out and Thibs refused to listen until it became untenable? Yes. You have a lot of hate for a guy who gave the organization a chance to prevent the PR disaster it became and they chose to ignore it so he blew it up. Sorry we aren't that petty to baby rage every time Jimmy is on a TV screen because he exposed some big time flaws in our players and organization and both proceeded to do jack shit to prove him wrong when he left.

Wow, talk about only hearing what you want to hear. Nice job Khans.

[Lipoli390]

I was cheering for Toronto also and against Butler. I'll also mention that Embiid while a good player annoys me. Regardless of all that what a game! I watched most of the 2nd half it was super enjoyable to watch. Both teams going back and forth etc.

This offseason is gonna be super interesting. What happens with the Celtics? Sixers? Toronto? GS? It could be chaos depending on a few decisions players make. Meanwhile there was chatter Brett Brown's job was in jeopardy...weird I don't get it.

I was cheering for Toronto also and against Butler. I'll also mention that Embiid while a good player annoys me. Regardless of all that what a game! I watched most of the 2nd half it was super enjoyable to watch. Both teams going back and forth etc.

This offseason is gonna be super interesting. What happens with the Celtics? Sixers? Toronto? GS? It could be chaos depending on a few decisions players make. Meanwhile there was chatter Brett Brown's job was in jeopardy...weird I don't get it.

Embiid annoys me too, Monster. In any event, as you noted, it was a great game 7 and an overall terrific series. I still think the Sixers were the more talented team. But a last second shot by the best player on the floor put the Raptors over the top.

Brett Brown is a great coach. Simmons' inability to hit perimeter shots and Embiid's lack of durability hurt the Sixers' chance of getting home court advantage. But they still almost beat the Raptors in game 7 in Toronto. I'd take Brown in a heartbeat as the Wolves next head coach if given the chance.

Yes, it will be interesting to see what happens this offseason with all four teams you mentioned. Will Kyrie leave the Celtics? And what about Butler and Harris? Will the Sixers retain one, the other or both. Will Durant leave the Warriors in search of his own team to lead? Stay tuned.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

Devils advocacy on this board is so ingrained that you can actually find posters willing to go to bat for Jimmy Butler. What is wrong with some of you? I mean you do care about the Wolves franchise don't you? I would assume you do since so much time is spent posting here. The democratic congress has nothing on some of you people.

Was he wrong with his criticisms of the team? No. Did he tell Thibs he wanted out and Thibs refused to listen until it became untenable? Yes. You have a lot of hate for a guy who gave the organization a chance to prevent the PR disaster it became and they chose to ignore it so he blew it up. Sorry we aren't that petty to baby rage every time Jimmy is on a TV screen because he exposed some big time flaws in our players and organization and both proceeded to do jack shit to prove him wrong when he left.

Wow, talk about only hearing what you want to hear. Nice job Khans.

Lol you started a thread shit talking a guy for not making it past the second round when our joke of a franchise couldn't even get the 8 seed without him. Then you call people dumb fucks for being ok with what he did to this franchise because our soft millennials couldn't prove him wrong when given the chance. Then you question our loyalty to the franchise just because we don't join you in your salty quest to tear down a grown man playing a game. What am I missing that you think I'm hearing you wrong? You posted all of that. Get over it already. Jesus.

[Coolbreeze44]

I was cheering for Toronto also and against Butler. I'll also mention that Embiid while a good player annoys me. Regardless of all that what a game! I watched most of the 2nd half it was super enjoyable to watch. Both teams going back and forth etc.

This offseason is gonna be super interesting. What happens with the Celtics? Sixers? Toronto? GS? It could be chaos depending on a few decisions players make. Meanwhile there was chatter Brett Brown's job was in jeopardy...weird I don't get it.

I was cheering for Toronto also and against Butler. I'll also mention that Embiid while a good player annoys me. Regardless of all that what a game! I watched most of the 2nd half it was super enjoyable to watch. Both teams going back and forth etc.

This offseason is gonna be super interesting. What happens with the Celtics? Sixers? Toronto? GS? It could be chaos depending on a few decisions players make. Meanwhile there was chatter Brett Brown's job was in jeopardy...weird I don't get it.

Embiid annoys me too, Monster. In any event, as you noted, it was a great game 7 and an overall terrific series. I still think the Sixers were the more talented team. But a last second shot by the best player on the floor put the Raptors over the top.

Brett Brown is a great coach. Simmons' inability to hit perimeter shots and Embiid's lack of durability hurt the Sixers' chance of getting home court advantage. But they still almost beat the Raptors in game 7 in Toronto. I'd take Brown in a heartbeat as the Wolves next head coach if given the chance.

Yes, it will be interesting to see what happens this offseason with all four teams you mentioned. Will Kyrie leave the Celtics? And what about Butler and Harris? Will the Sixers retain one, the other or both. Will Durant leave the Warriors in search of his own team to lead? Stay tuned.

I think the 76ers proved that you can't just assemble a fantasy team and expect to have the cohesion necessary to become champions. I'll admit it, their starting lineup is plain scary. I really didn't want the Bucks to run into them, although the Bucks win. They are probably going to lose JJ, and then they are really going to have a hard time creating space. Their GM has his work cut out for him this offseason.