Rosas hired as the new PBO

[mjs34]

It might be painful and hilarious and make you insanely angry but it may be worth listening to Jon K's podcast from Monday. Jon, Souhan and Steve Terry talk about how unqualified Kahn was and they knew it before the press conference introducing him as the guy. Jon K covered the Pacers before coming to MN. The positive? Rosas is well qualified for this job infinitely more so than Kahn and as an executive more so than Thibs. It may not work out but the process of this hire seems to be sound. That's probably a first when hiring a basketball executive for this organization.

Hopefully, Rosas doesn't eat his ear wax while on camera and sitting with 15k+ people in a public space.

Kahn did this. I swear to god he did this. Some of you may remember me mentioning this story 2 or 200 other times.

Maybe the earwax is better than you think. Have you ever tried it? At least he didn't wipe it on his seat for the next person to grab.

[Monster]

It might be painful and hilarious and make you insanely angry but it may be worth listening to Jon K's podcast from Monday. Jon, Souhan and Steve Terry talk about how unqualified Kahn was and they knew it before the press conference introducing him as the guy. Jon K covered the Pacers before coming to MN. The positive? Rosas is well qualified for this job infinitely more so than Kahn and as an executive more so than Thibs. It may not work out but the process of this hire seems to be sound. That's probably a first when hiring a basketball executive for this organization.

How do they know anything more about Kahn than we do Rosas? Wasn't Khan the assistant GM in Indiana for like five or 10 years? Doesn't he have a law degree as well?

The podcast is less than 30 mins it's worth a listen to answer your questions. To answer one Kahn was not the #2 for Walsh according to Jon K who said he spoke directly to Walsh about it.

EDIT: To clarify I thought Kahn was #2 or at least had a more significant role than was portrayed in this podcast. There is a few things laid out in this podcast I do not believe I was aware of before but maybe I had forgotten either because it's been a long time or possibly as part of a defense mechanism. Lol

[Lipoli390]

It might be painful and hilarious and make you insanely angry but it may be worth listening to Jon K's podcast from Monday. Jon, Souhan and Steve Terry talk about how unqualified Kahn was and they knew it before the press conference introducing him as the guy. Jon K covered the Pacers before coming to MN. The positive? Rosas is well qualified for this job infinitely more so than Kahn and as an executive more so than Thibs. It may not work out but the process of this hire seems to be sound. That's probably a first when hiring a basketball executive for this organization.

How do they know anything more about Kahn than we do Rosas? Wasn't Khan the assistant GM in Indiana for like five or 10 years? Doesn't he have a law degree as well?

The podcast is less than 30 mins it's worth a listen to answer your questions. To answer one Kahn was not the #2 for Walsh according to Jon K who said he spoke directly to Walsh about it.

EDIT: To clarify I thought Kahn was #2 or at least had a more significant role than was portrayed in this podcast. There is a few things laid out in this podcast I do not believe I was aware of before but maybe I had forgotten either because it's been a long time or possibly as part of a defense mechanism. Lol

I'm not sure I'll listen to the podcast. I'll probably find it too painful. :) But I can say that I remember knowing at the time that Kahn's role in the Pacers front office was a minor one. I wrote a scathing email to the Wolves Present and CEO about how unqualified Kahn was for the position. I wrote a scathing email protesting the hiring of Thibodeau and Layden. Yesterday, I wrote an email to Casson and other Wolves execs praising them for hiring Rosas. He may or may not be successful when we reflect on this with hindsight in a few years. But right now, I have a hard time finding fault with the choice. My main reservation is that I don't consider the Rockets a particularly good model for success with the Wolves. But Rosas has a lot of experience and, by all accounts, is very smart with an eye for talent. So there's reason to believe he'll know or figure out how to build a contender in Minnesota around KAT in spite of the constraints he'll face.

[Monster]

I've been reading a lot of articles and listening to various podcasts so i don't remember who mentioned this but they brought up Egan Casson clearly has quite a bit of power in the organization and at this point it looks like a good thing. Basically Rosas is his hire. I see the good organizations have a really good relationship between all aspects of the organization the business side, basketball decision makers, the coaching staff, the players and ownership playing whatever role. Cheryl Reeve was in on this process and most would be happy if Glen would sell the team to someone more competent but the reality is that if you get all the right people in place I don't think Glen is a problem. Of course getting the right people in place in the first place...

With Casson Doug this search I think he may be someone that has interest in Ryan Saunders being the coach of this team not just Glen. In stuff I have consumed recently it was brought up Ryan being the coach has some advantages for the fan base. Sure that's not why you keep him around but it's certainly a nice bonus. The reality is what the Wolves organization is setting up is a collaborative situation between everyone. Ryan Saunders is that type of guy and has the full support of his players as well as an analytical background. Who is the best coach available? Let's say it's Dave Joerger. He has been fired from 2 organizations because for one reason or another he didn't mesh with the front office folks and maybe some players. I don't see the fit for what this team is trying to do. Does anyone really expect him to suddenly play nice with everyone? Ok maybe since Memphis and the Kings aren't genius franchises but...it's certainly worrisome. I don't see a clear fit other than Saunders and Jon K reported that Rosas and Ryan have had a relationship for years. It's weird he is so vague about it but whatever. If They find out Ryan isn't the right guy in the next year or 2 they may have a better idea of who the right guy is and make a hire based on more info. Right now this team is sort of in flux/uncertain of what it is or isn't. The only thing you know for certain is you want Towns on the roster. Ryan Saunders has the name but IMO he does actually make sense as a young coach in an organization that's looking to partner up to bring success.

[Lipoli390]

I've been reading a lot of articles and listening to various podcasts so i don't remember who mentioned this but they brought up Egan Casson clearly has quite a bit of power in the organization and at this point it looks like a good thing. Basically Rosas is his hire. I see the good organizations have a really good relationship between all aspects of the organization the business side, basketball decision makers, the coaching staff, the players and ownership playing whatever role. Cheryl Reeve was in on this process and most would be happy if Glen would sell the team to someone more competent but the reality is that if you get all the right people in place I don't think Glen is a problem. Of course getting the right people in place in the first place...

With Casson Doug this search I think he may be someone that has interest in Ryan Saunders being the coach of this team not just Glen. In stuff I have consumed recently it was brought up Ryan being the coach has some advantages for the fan base. Sure that's not why you keep him around but it's certainly a nice bonus. The reality is what the Wolves organization is setting up is a collaborative situation between everyone. Ryan Saunders is that type of guy and has the full support of his players as well as an analytical background. Who is the best coach available? Let's say it's Dave Joerger. He has been fired from 2 organizations because for one reason or another he didn't mesh with the front office folks and maybe some players. I don't see the fit for what this team is trying to do. Does anyone really expect him to suddenly play nice with everyone? Ok maybe since Memphis and the Kings aren't genius franchises but...it's certainly worrisome. I don't see a clear fit other than Saunders and Jon K reported that Rosas and Ryan have had a relationship for years. It's weird he is so vague about it but whatever. If They find out Ryan isn't the right guy in the next year or 2 they may have a better idea of who the right guy is and make a hire based on more info. Right now this team is sort of in flux/uncertain of what it is or isn't. The only thing you know for certain is you want Towns on the roster. Ryan Saunders has the name but IMO he does actually make sense as a young coach in an organization that's looking to partner up to bring success.

I get the same sense about Casson having a lot of power in the organization and being the main force behind hiring Rosas. I'm pretty sure Ryan Saunders will be the Wolves head coach next season on a 2-year guaranteed contract. He provides some continuity and has the broad support of the players, including the team's one star, Towns. While I'm not yet sold on him as a really good coach, I saw nothing to suggest he's a bad one either. I can see Rosas being comfortable retaining Saunders on a two-year deal and evaluating him along with the team this next season. The Wolves can always buy-out the second year of Ryan's contract, which probably won't be a particularly big contract, if things don't go well. As for Joeger, he's obviously been an effective head coach. But getting fired by two different organizations in spite of on-court success raises a big red flag for me. As you said, the good organizations tend to have good internal relationships between the various departments. I'm looking forward to hearing from Rosas and getting a better sense of who he is and what his plans are.

[MikkeMan]

I'm not sure I'll listen to the podcast. I'll probably find it too painful. :) But I can say that I remember knowing at the time that Kahn's role in the Pacers front office was a minor one. I wrote a scathing email to the Wolves Present and CEO about how unqualified Kahn was for the position. I wrote a scathing email protesting the hiring of Thibodeau and Layden. Yesterday, I wrote an email to Casson and other Wolves execs praising them for hiring Rosas. He may or may not be successful when we reflect on this with hindsight in a few years. But right now, I have a hard time finding fault with the choice. My main reservation is that I don't consider the Rockets a particularly good model for success with the Wolves. But Rosas has a lot of experience and, by all accounts, is very smart with an eye for talent. So there's reason to believe he'll know or figure out how to build a contender in Minnesota around KAT in spite of the constraints he'll face.

Even tough Rockets are on different position as NBA team because of being from low tax and warm climate state, they have done plenty of good to great moves during past 17 years that would be possible also for team like Wolves.

Here is my list of Rockets moves that I like:
- Drafting Clint Capela with 25th pick
- Drafting Montrelz Harrell with 32th pick
- Drafting Chandler Parsons with 38th pick
- Drafting Carl Landry with 31th pick (was drafted by Seattle but since it was a draft day deal I think he was Rockets choise)
- Trading for Louis Scola
- Signing undrafted free agent Chuck Hayes
- Trading Rafer Alston to Kyle Lowry
- Drafting Chase Budinger with 44th pick (was drafted by Detroit but since it was a draft day deal I think he was Rockets choise)
- Signing 23 year old Trevor Ariza
- Trading Aaron Brooks for Dragic and 1st round pick
- Signing 24 year old Patrick Beverley
- Trading Asik for Ariza and 1st round pick
- Trading late 1st round pick for Lou Wiliams
- Signing Eric Gordon as free agent
- Trading two 1st round picks, Lamb and Kevin Martin for James Harden

Of course Harden caliber young wing players are rarely available but in last couple of years players like Oladipo and D'Angelo Russell have been dealt. Wouldn't it be nice if either of them would play currently for Wolves?

Personally I also liked following move even though it wasn't as good than previous ones:
- Trading just drafted Rudy Gay for Shane Battier

It seems for me that Rockets have done good job in finding hidden gems with their late 1st or 2nd draft picks as well as signing young non-proven free agents. I certainly hope that Rosas has been contributor in some of those moves and that he would do similar moves in future as Wolves executive.

[Monster]

Timberwolves announce hiring of Gersson Rosas as Timberwolves president. Quick story.

Gersson's wife bought him an overcoat last fall for his travels this season. Said he did not like to carry such a heavy coat, but noted it was blue.

Said "Where am I going, the Timberwolves?"

https://twitter.com/jonathan_feigen/status/1124437969463590912?s=21

[Lipoli390]

I watched a bunch of Rosas videos today. He's well spoken and strikes me as pretty intelligent. But he's not exactly charismatic - and that's an understatement. His manner of speaking reminds me of Thibodeau but a bit less intense. He doesn't seem like a high energy guy or someone you'd look to for inspiration or leadership. But I get the sense he's solid and stable. He talks a lot about team philosophy and reatedly said that you should draft or sign players who fit the team's philosophy - whatever that means.

[thedoper]

Presser is here:

https://www.nba.com/timberwolves/live

[thedoper]

Rosas needs to spank his children. He should get AP on it.