lipoli390 wrote:AbeVigodaLive wrote:At some point... where a player is drafted has ZERO relevance.
Teams don't care where a guy is drafted if he hasn't played well... AND hasn't improved.
Yes, at some point draft position has zero relevance. That's obvious. But I don't think Culver is at that point yet. He was drafted two years ago and has shown at times that he can play well at this level. Admittedly, he's been trending downward towards zero. I just don't think he's there yet in the minds of every NBA organization. NBA front offices are filled with big egos who think they can see things others don't and get things out of young players that others can't.
What specifically is it about Culver do you think NBA teams covet?
Creating?
Defense?
Size?
Motor?
Et al.
From the stats are fun column...
An "average" GameScore (sorta like PER) is 10.0.
Culver has reached being an average player only 15 times in 97 career games... and only 4 times this past season.
Meanwhile, he's had a negative GameScore (very rare) 16 times... including 10 times this past season.
By comparison, Okogie has 38 +10 games... and 18 negative ones. So Culver isn't as good defensively or offensively as Josh Okogie, at least according to that stat. Culver also had negative WS this season. He's the only Timberwolves player to reach that lofty status and one of the only guys who actually was in a rotation in the entire league to reach it.
For good measure... Culver was the only guy outside of Allen Crabbe to have a negative WS on last year's team, too.
Quite probably the worst player on teams that went 42 - 94... who actually got worse. The one thing you NEVER want to see... a rookie who had a bad year get worse.
I don't think we've seen many 22 year olds recover from that. He has negative value.
[Note: The last player to post a negative WS that received any sort of real playing time was Adrien Payne over 52 games back in 2016. He played in 13 more NBA games over two seasons before he was out of the league. Zach LaVine was the guy before that... and he recovered nicely.]