CoolBreeze44 wrote:Well.........like I said, it's never going to be a popular stance with my fellow Minnesota fans. The ability to be objective about one's own is not a very common trait.
Obviously, Cool digs pedophiles.
[Note: That's a terrible post by me, right? Yours was awful, too. You were called out for taking Malone's "character" over Garnett and I provided facts to support it. Then, you double down with some dismissive comment about us not being objective? Lame.]
I had never heard that about Malone. If true it's obviously a despicable thing. How did he not go to jail?
As far as my comments being lame, that seems to be a familiar theme with you toward me. I'd wager you dog me 80-90% of the time when I make a strong opinion-based post. Perhaps you don't like my style, or maybe you just don't like ME. Whatever it is, it's simply impossible for two people to have polar opposite views on everything. I mean don't we have to occasionally be aligned simply by accident? You must gain something in these exchanges, I won't speculate on what that might be.
Anyway, yes it's not often rabid fans can look at their own objectively. For a long time I had trouble doing so with Andrew Wiggins. Before him I was a huge supporter of the Wild's Pierre-Marc Bouchard when a large segment of the fan base soured on him. But by and large I'm a pretty good judge of character. I don't hero worship, I don't dress up in a team jersey when I go to a game, and when my team stinks I can admit it. I root for name on the front of the jersey. For a long time I was a big KG supporter. But it was HIM that soured me, not something I did or concocted about him. The names on the backs of the jerseys change year by year. If the Wolves somehow win a championship one day, to me it will be the Twin Cities that wins. Not Towns, Russell, or some other place-holder in the jersey. I'm grateful for that perspective.
I just found it to be hypocritical. I think you're an opinionated blowhard (WHICH IS FINE)... we all are.
It's when you are... but then claim somebody who consistently uses facts vs. your conjecture is the one who is incapable of being objective.
I literally just gave you reasons (https://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=hill/080507Karl Malone with that 12 year old and his son) and you dismiss it in an opinionated blowhard sort of way. Educate yourself with facts and evidence and your opinions would hold more weight than your take in this thread: "You guys are unwilling to side with me because you're not being honest."
That's super lame.
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1. I like having you on the board. Nobody is perfect. Not even me. :cry:
2. Garnett was an asshole. But if we're calling out his character and championing Malone's character... find out more about the guy we're championing.
3. We have very very different posting styles. You're probably a bit more emotional. I'm probably a bit more pragmatic to a fault. In fact, I take precautions in nearly every post to try to back up my take or stay away from hyperbole (sans Rashad McCants). Neither style is wrong. Every once in awhile the contrasting styles clash... especially when I'm still labeled as not capable of being objective.
You clearly take this more seriously than i do. Part of me would like to tear your post above to shreds, and get into the juvenile back and forth that it leads to. But not this time. Have a great day Abe.
Ummm... fair enough.
I'm the emotional one here... obviously, it's me who's been overly emotional for the better part of 6,800 posts. And obviously, there's no amusing unintentional irony in your post.
My apologies for flying off the handle as often as I do. Maybe I can add "to be fair" or something more often to temper my posts a bit more than they already are.
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Well.........like I said, it's never going to be a popular stance with my fellow Minnesota fans. The ability to be objective about one's own is not a very common trait.
Obviously, Cool digs pedophiles.
[Note: That's a terrible post by me, right? Yours was awful, too. You were called out for taking Malone's "character" over Garnett and I provided facts to support it. Then, you double down with some dismissive comment about us not being objective? Lame.]
I had never heard that about Malone. If true it's obviously a despicable thing. How did he not go to jail?
As far as my comments being lame, that seems to be a familiar theme with you toward me. I'd wager you dog me 80-90% of the time when I make a strong opinion-based post. Perhaps you don't like my style, or maybe you just don't like ME. Whatever it is, it's simply impossible for two people to have polar opposite views on everything. I mean don't we have to occasionally be aligned simply by accident? You must gain something in these exchanges, I won't speculate on what that might be.
Anyway, yes it's not often rabid fans can look at their own objectively. For a long time I had trouble doing so with Andrew Wiggins. Before him I was a huge supporter of the Wild's Pierre-Marc Bouchard when a large segment of the fan base soured on him. But by and large I'm a pretty good judge of character. I don't hero worship, I don't dress up in a team jersey when I go to a game, and when my team stinks I can admit it. I root for name on the front of the jersey. For a long time I was a big KG supporter. But it was HIM that soured me, not something I did or concocted about him. The names on the backs of the jerseys change year by year. If the Wolves somehow win a championship one day, to me it will be the Twin Cities that wins. Not Towns, Russell, or some other place-holder in the jersey. I'm grateful for that perspective.
I just found it to be hypocritical. I think you're an opinionated blowhard (WHICH IS FINE)... we all are.
It's when you are... but then claim somebody who consistently uses facts vs. your conjecture is the one who is incapable of being objective.
I literally just gave you reasons (https://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=hill/080507Karl Malone with that 12 year old and his son) and you dismiss it in an opinionated blowhard sort of way. Educate yourself with facts and evidence and your opinions would hold more weight than your take in this thread: "You guys are unwilling to side with me because you're not being honest."
That's super lame.
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1. I like having you on the board. Nobody is perfect. Not even me. :cry:
2. Garnett was an asshole. But if we're calling out his character and championing Malone's character... find out more about the guy we're championing.
3. We have very very different posting styles. You're probably a bit more emotional. I'm probably a bit more pragmatic to a fault. In fact, I take precautions in nearly every post to try to back up my take or stay away from hyperbole (sans Rashad McCants). Neither style is wrong. Every once in awhile the contrasting styles clash... especially when I'm still labeled as not capable of being objective.
You clearly take this more seriously than i do. Part of me would like to tear your post above to shreds, and get into the juvenile back and forth that it leads to. But not this time. Have a great day Abe.
Ummm... fair enough.
I'm the emotional one here... obviously, it's me who's been overly emotional for the better part of 6,800 posts. And obviously, there's no amusing unintentional irony in your post.
My apologies for flying off the handle as often as I do. Maybe I can add "to be fair" or something more often to temper my posts a bit more than they already are.
PorkChop wrote:Jordan was notoriously hard on his teammates. How is KG any different?
Kim Jong-un is hard on his relatives. What's your point? Because Jordan could be an asshole that means it's okay?
Meaning sometimes in order to get the best out of your teammates knowing they are lesser talents you can't be afraid to ruffle some feathers. Sink or swim.
