AbeVigodaLive wrote:So we're ultimately happy that the Wolves traded an asset in Teague just to save Taylor some money?
Nobody is "happy" about that deal but maybe...ok-ish? FWIW Teague has shot pretty poorly in Atlanta. I was one of the biggest Teague supporters here but I didn't think we would get more than a decent 2nd rounder for him anyway. They got an extra roster spot in that deal I don't know what kind of value Graham did or didn't have. An open roster spot might have about as much value as a 2nd round pick depending on various moves and who you can keep/sign afterwards. Plenty of good teams made moves to save money before the deadline. I don't see a significant consequence in doing this deal especially since McLaughlin has played well after dealing Teague.
So essentially...
Teague = an empty chair.
It's a good spin after the fact... but still a lost opportunity.
What do you think they were going to get for Teague? I was saying before the trade they weren't going to get much if anything for him (so this isn't just after the fact spin) and I actually brought up Crabbe as a salary match. Was there some other comparable deal where a team got something back for a guy like Teague?
I don't mean to make it seem like I'm attacking you.
But I've read so many posts here by so many people about the value of picks... and now a 2nd rd. pick as the same value as an empty roster spot.
Meh.
Maybe a 2nd rd. pick was out of the picture. Maybe Crabbe was worth the gamble. But maybe the Wolves could have at least waited another month for the trade market to shake out to see for certain? Was jettisoning Teague right then really that vital? Was it part of the tank? Was it for some behind-the-scenes stuff with other player(s)?
No worries. I get your point and Teague was certainly a missed opportunity. I was more commenting about the idea that Glen is giddy with this plan. I had hope they were going to be able to raise Teague's value to get something out of him but as time went on it seemed clear to me that wasn't going to be the case.
I think you are onto something about taking a gamble on Crabbe. Shot over 38% from 3 and played in 2 systems that assistant coaches were a part of. In true Wolves fashion he couldn't hit the broadside of the barn and I'm a sorta fan of Crabbe but he didn't look great. It made sense to basically buy low and hope you get a decent cheap shooter cheap. Pretty much EVERY team is looking for shooters but the wolves have needed that for some fans lifetimes. lol Wolfson reported Crabbe wanted out and gave up a decent chunk to do it. I think once the wolves were over the lux tax they were much more willing to save money. Again do I blame them? No.
You don't win all these type of things. Teague Wiggins and Dieng were the overpaid contracts going into the season. Teague they traded for basically nothing. Dieng Raised his value some and they traded him for a similar overpaid player that is likely more useful in Johnson especially considering the system this franchise has chose to run AND he makes over a million less money. The Wolves moves Wiggins to GS to get Russell and only gave up ONE 1st round pick. I'd say the team went 2 for 3 or maybe 1.7232453 for 3 on their overpaid contract players. :)
So here is the question...how many times have the Wolves made moves to open up a roster spot so they can sign a vet player or a young player or whatever...when has that worked out long term? Racking my brain I can't think of anything for this storied franchise. If the Wolves use that roster spot for someone either a 2-way guy or maybe even Spellman or Evans (doubtful Evans becomes anything) or someone else they sign becomes an even moderately useful nba player then the deal makes more sense.
If it's JUST about money and Graham was a guy nobody would have taken for free and they would have had to waive him then let's add this up...you have half million savings for Crabbe instead of Teague over 1.5 million for Graham and then the reported over 700k Crabbe took in the buyout so that's almost 3 million and then you have the 1.5 times lux tax payments that's over 4 million in savings right? Thats not a small amount of money in savings. Just sayin. If they end up out of the luxury tax altogether the money saved/gained grows more and they don't have to worry about any repercussions of being a tax team this year that will add more value to the move. Again...just sayin.
AbeVigodaLive wrote:So we're ultimately happy that the Wolves traded an asset in Teague just to save Taylor some money?
Nobody is "happy" about that deal but maybe...ok-ish? FWIW Teague has shot pretty poorly in Atlanta. I was one of the biggest Teague supporters here but I didn't think we would get more than a decent 2nd rounder for him anyway. They got an extra roster spot in that deal I don't know what kind of value Graham did or didn't have. An open roster spot might have about as much value as a 2nd round pick depending on various moves and who you can keep/sign afterwards. Plenty of good teams made moves to save money before the deadline. I don't see a significant consequence in doing this deal especially since McLaughlin has played well after dealing Teague.
So essentially...
Teague = an empty chair.
It's a good spin after the fact... but still a lost opportunity.
What do you think they were going to get for Teague? I was saying before the trade they weren't going to get much if anything for him (so this isn't just after the fact spin) and I actually brought up Crabbe as a salary match. Was there some other comparable deal where a team got something back for a guy like Teague?
I don't mean to make it seem like I'm attacking you.
But I've read so many posts here by so many people about the value of picks... and now a 2nd rd. pick as the same value as an empty roster spot.
Meh.
Maybe a 2nd rd. pick was out of the picture. Maybe Crabbe was worth the gamble. But maybe the Wolves could have at least waited another month for the trade market to shake out to see for certain? Was jettisoning Teague right then really that vital? Was it part of the tank? Was it for some behind-the-scenes stuff with other player(s)?
No worries. I get your point and Teague was certainly a missed opportunity. I was more commenting about the idea that Glen is giddy with this plan. I had hope they were going to be able to raise Teague's value to get something out of him but as time went on it seemed clear to me that wasn't going to be the case.
I think you are onto something about taking a gamble on Crabbe. Shot over 38% from 3 and played in 2 systems that assistant coaches were a part of. In true Wolves fashion he couldn't hit the broadside of the barn and I'm a sorta fan of Crabbe but he didn't look great. It made sense to basically buy low and hope you get a decent cheap shooter cheap. Pretty much EVERY team is looking for shooters but the wolves have needed that for some fans lifetimes. lol Wolfson reported Crabbe wanted out and gave up a decent chunk to do it. I think once the wolves were over the lux tax they were much more willing to save money. Again do I blame them? No.
You don't win all these type of things. Teague Wiggins and Dieng were the overpaid contracts going into the season. Teague they traded for basically nothing. Dieng Raised his value some and they traded him for a similar overpaid player that is likely more useful in Johnson especially considering the system this franchise has chose to run AND he makes over a million less money. The Wolves moves Wiggins to GS to get Russell and only gave up ONE 1st round pick. I'd say the team went 2 for 3 or maybe 1.7232453 for 3 on their overpaid contract players. :)
So here is the question...how many times have the Wolves made moves to open up a roster spot so they can sign a vet player or a young player or whatever...when has that worked out long term? Racking my brain I can't think of anything for this storied franchise. If the Wolves use that roster spot for someone either a 2-way guy or maybe even Spellman or Evans (doubtful Evans becomes anything) or someone else they sign becomes an even moderately useful nba player then the deal makes more sense.
If it's JUST about money and Graham was a guy nobody would have taken for free and they would have had to waive him then let's add this up...you have half million savings for Crabbe instead of Teague over 1.5 million for Graham and then the reported over 700k Crabbe took in the buyout so that's almost 3 million and then you have the 1.5 times lux tax payments that's over 4 million in savings right? Thats not a small amount of money in savings. Just sayin. If they end up out of the luxury tax altogether the money saved/gained grows more and they don't have to worry about any repercussions of being a tax team this year that will add more value to the move. Again...just sayin.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:So we're ultimately happy that the Wolves traded an asset in Teague just to save Taylor some money?
Nobody is "happy" about that deal but maybe...ok-ish? FWIW Teague has shot pretty poorly in Atlanta. I was one of the biggest Teague supporters here but I didn't think we would get more than a decent 2nd rounder for him anyway. They got an extra roster spot in that deal I don't know what kind of value Graham did or didn't have. An open roster spot might have about as much value as a 2nd round pick depending on various moves and who you can keep/sign afterwards. Plenty of good teams made moves to save money before the deadline. I don't see a significant consequence in doing this deal especially since McLaughlin has played well after dealing Teague.
So essentially...
Teague = an empty chair.
It's a good spin after the fact... but still a lost opportunity.
What do you think they were going to get for Teague? I was saying before the trade they weren't going to get much if anything for him (so this isn't just after the fact spin) and I actually brought up Crabbe as a salary match. Was there some other comparable deal where a team got something back for a guy like Teague?
I don't mean to make it seem like I'm attacking you.
But I've read so many posts here by so many people about the value of picks... and now a 2nd rd. pick as the same value as an empty roster spot.
Meh.
Maybe a 2nd rd. pick was out of the picture. Maybe Crabbe was worth the gamble. But maybe the Wolves could have at least waited another month for the trade market to shake out to see for certain? Was jettisoning Teague right then really that vital? Was it part of the tank? Was it for some behind-the-scenes stuff with other player(s)?
No worries. I get your point and Teague was certainly a missed opportunity. I was more commenting about the idea that Glen is giddy with this plan. I had hope they were going to be able to raise Teague's value to get something out of him but as time went on it seemed clear to me that wasn't going to be the case.
I think you are onto something about taking a gamble on Crabbe. Shot over 38% from 3 and played in 2 systems that assistant coaches were a part of. In true Wolves fashion he couldn't hit the broadside of the barn and I'm a sorta fan of Crabbe but he didn't look great. It made sense to basically buy low and hope you get a decent cheap shooter cheap. Pretty much EVERY team is looking for shooters but the wolves have needed that for some fans lifetimes. lol Wolfson reported Crabbe wanted out and gave up a decent chunk to do it. I think once the wolves were over the lux tax they were much more willing to save money. Again do I blame them? No.
You don't win all these type of things. Teague Wiggins and Dieng were the overpaid contracts going into the season. Teague they traded for basically nothing. Dieng Raised his value some and they traded him for a similar overpaid player that is likely more useful in Johnson especially considering the system this franchise has chose to run AND he makes over a million less money. The Wolves moves Wiggins to GS to get Russell and only gave up ONE 1st round pick. I'd say the team went 2 for 3 or maybe 1.7232453 for 3 on their overpaid contract players. :)
So here is the question...how many times have the Wolves made moves to open up a roster spot so they can sign a vet player or a young player or whatever...when has that worked out long term? Racking my brain I can't think of anything for this storied franchise. If the Wolves use that roster spot for someone either a 2-way guy or maybe even Spellman or Evans (doubtful Evans becomes anything) or someone else they sign becomes an even moderately useful nba player then the deal makes more sense.
If it's JUST about money and Graham was a guy nobody would have taken for free and they would have had to waive him then let's add this up...you have half million savings for Crabbe instead of Teague over 1.5 million for Graham and then the reported over 700k Crabbe took in the buyout so that's almost 3 million and then you have the 1.5 times lux tax payments that's over 4 million in savings right? Thats not a small amount of money in savings. Just sayin. If they end up out of the luxury tax altogether the money saved/gained grows more and they don't have to worry about any repercussions of being a tax team this year that will add more value to the move. Again...just sayin.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:So we're ultimately happy that the Wolves traded an asset in Teague just to save Taylor some money?
Nobody is "happy" about that deal but maybe...ok-ish? FWIW Teague has shot pretty poorly in Atlanta. I was one of the biggest Teague supporters here but I didn't think we would get more than a decent 2nd rounder for him anyway. They got an extra roster spot in that deal I don't know what kind of value Graham did or didn't have. An open roster spot might have about as much value as a 2nd round pick depending on various moves and who you can keep/sign afterwards. Plenty of good teams made moves to save money before the deadline. I don't see a significant consequence in doing this deal especially since McLaughlin has played well after dealing Teague.
So essentially...
Teague = an empty chair.
It's a good spin after the fact... but still a lost opportunity.
What do you think they were going to get for Teague? I was saying before the trade they weren't going to get much if anything for him (so this isn't just after the fact spin) and I actually brought up Crabbe as a salary match. Was there some other comparable deal where a team got something back for a guy like Teague?
I don't mean to make it seem like I'm attacking you.
But I've read so many posts here by so many people about the value of picks... and now a 2nd rd. pick as the same value as an empty roster spot.
Meh.
Maybe a 2nd rd. pick was out of the picture. Maybe Crabbe was worth the gamble. But maybe the Wolves could have at least waited another month for the trade market to shake out to see for certain? Was jettisoning Teague right then really that vital? Was it part of the tank? Was it for some behind-the-scenes stuff with other player(s)?
No worries. I get your point and Teague was certainly a missed opportunity. I was more commenting about the idea that Glen is giddy with this plan. I had hope they were going to be able to raise Teague's value to get something out of him but as time went on it seemed clear to me that wasn't going to be the case.
I think you are onto something about taking a gamble on Crabbe. Shot over 38% from 3 and played in 2 systems that assistant coaches were a part of. In true Wolves fashion he couldn't hit the broadside of the barn and I'm a sorta fan of Crabbe but he didn't look great. It made sense to basically buy low and hope you get a decent cheap shooter cheap. Pretty much EVERY team is looking for shooters but the wolves have needed that for some fans lifetimes. lol Wolfson reported Crabbe wanted out and gave up a decent chunk to do it. I think once the wolves were over the lux tax they were much more willing to save money. Again do I blame them? No.
You don't win all these type of things. Teague Wiggins and Dieng were the overpaid contracts going into the season. Teague they traded for basically nothing. Dieng Raised his value some and they traded him for a similar overpaid player that is likely more useful in Johnson especially considering the system this franchise has chose to run AND he makes over a million less money. The Wolves moves Wiggins to GS to get Russell and only gave up ONE 1st round pick. I'd say the team went 2 for 3 or maybe 1.7232453 for 3 on their overpaid contract players. :)
So here is the question...how many times have the Wolves made moves to open up a roster spot so they can sign a vet player or a young player or whatever...when has that worked out long term? Racking my brain I can't think of anything for this storied franchise. If the Wolves use that roster spot for someone either a 2-way guy or maybe even Spellman or Evans (doubtful Evans becomes anything) or someone else they sign becomes an even moderately useful nba player then the deal makes more sense.
If it's JUST about money and Graham was a guy nobody would have taken for free and they would have had to waive him then let's add this up...you have half million savings for Crabbe instead of Teague over 1.5 million for Graham and then the reported over 700k Crabbe took in the buyout so that's almost 3 million and then you have the 1.5 times lux tax payments that's over 4 million in savings right? Thats not a small amount of money in savings. Just sayin. If they end up out of the luxury tax altogether the money saved/gained grows more and they don't have to worry about any repercussions of being a tax team this year that will add more value to the move. Again...just sayin.
All fair points.
To summarize... The Wolves are 18 - 42 and in the hunt for the 2nd worst team in the League... despite having two #1 draft picks in their prime on max deals ... and while skirting with the luxury tax.
Cool. Well-run organization by Mr. Taylor.
[Note: I know Rosas is trying to work his way out of these problems. But the fact that we as fans are asked to be cool with this level of dysfunction... again... remains puzzling and amusing to me. Taylor is the worst... almost. At least he doesn't have a Dolan- or Sarver-sized ego.]
AbeVigodaLive wrote:So we're ultimately happy that the Wolves traded an asset in Teague just to save Taylor some money?
Nobody is "happy" about that deal but maybe...ok-ish? FWIW Teague has shot pretty poorly in Atlanta. I was one of the biggest Teague supporters here but I didn't think we would get more than a decent 2nd rounder for him anyway. They got an extra roster spot in that deal I don't know what kind of value Graham did or didn't have. An open roster spot might have about as much value as a 2nd round pick depending on various moves and who you can keep/sign afterwards. Plenty of good teams made moves to save money before the deadline. I don't see a significant consequence in doing this deal especially since McLaughlin has played well after dealing Teague.
So essentially...
Teague = an empty chair.
It's a good spin after the fact... but still a lost opportunity.
What do you think they were going to get for Teague? I was saying before the trade they weren't going to get much if anything for him (so this isn't just after the fact spin) and I actually brought up Crabbe as a salary match. Was there some other comparable deal where a team got something back for a guy like Teague?
I don't mean to make it seem like I'm attacking you.
But I've read so many posts here by so many people about the value of picks... and now a 2nd rd. pick as the same value as an empty roster spot.
Meh.
Maybe a 2nd rd. pick was out of the picture. Maybe Crabbe was worth the gamble. But maybe the Wolves could have at least waited another month for the trade market to shake out to see for certain? Was jettisoning Teague right then really that vital? Was it part of the tank? Was it for some behind-the-scenes stuff with other player(s)?
No worries. I get your point and Teague was certainly a missed opportunity. I was more commenting about the idea that Glen is giddy with this plan. I had hope they were going to be able to raise Teague's value to get something out of him but as time went on it seemed clear to me that wasn't going to be the case.
I think you are onto something about taking a gamble on Crabbe. Shot over 38% from 3 and played in 2 systems that assistant coaches were a part of. In true Wolves fashion he couldn't hit the broadside of the barn and I'm a sorta fan of Crabbe but he didn't look great. It made sense to basically buy low and hope you get a decent cheap shooter cheap. Pretty much EVERY team is looking for shooters but the wolves have needed that for some fans lifetimes. lol Wolfson reported Crabbe wanted out and gave up a decent chunk to do it. I think once the wolves were over the lux tax they were much more willing to save money. Again do I blame them? No.
You don't win all these type of things. Teague Wiggins and Dieng were the overpaid contracts going into the season. Teague they traded for basically nothing. Dieng Raised his value some and they traded him for a similar overpaid player that is likely more useful in Johnson especially considering the system this franchise has chose to run AND he makes over a million less money. The Wolves moves Wiggins to GS to get Russell and only gave up ONE 1st round pick. I'd say the team went 2 for 3 or maybe 1.7232453 for 3 on their overpaid contract players. :)
So here is the question...how many times have the Wolves made moves to open up a roster spot so they can sign a vet player or a young player or whatever...when has that worked out long term? Racking my brain I can't think of anything for this storied franchise. If the Wolves use that roster spot for someone either a 2-way guy or maybe even Spellman or Evans (doubtful Evans becomes anything) or someone else they sign becomes an even moderately useful nba player then the deal makes more sense.
If it's JUST about money and Graham was a guy nobody would have taken for free and they would have had to waive him then let's add this up...you have half million savings for Crabbe instead of Teague over 1.5 million for Graham and then the reported over 700k Crabbe took in the buyout so that's almost 3 million and then you have the 1.5 times lux tax payments that's over 4 million in savings right? Thats not a small amount of money in savings. Just sayin. If they end up out of the luxury tax altogether the money saved/gained grows more and they don't have to worry about any repercussions of being a tax team this year that will add more value to the move. Again...just sayin.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:So we're ultimately happy that the Wolves traded an asset in Teague just to save Taylor some money?
Nobody is "happy" about that deal but maybe...ok-ish? FWIW Teague has shot pretty poorly in Atlanta. I was one of the biggest Teague supporters here but I didn't think we would get more than a decent 2nd rounder for him anyway. They got an extra roster spot in that deal I don't know what kind of value Graham did or didn't have. An open roster spot might have about as much value as a 2nd round pick depending on various moves and who you can keep/sign afterwards. Plenty of good teams made moves to save money before the deadline. I don't see a significant consequence in doing this deal especially since McLaughlin has played well after dealing Teague.
So essentially...
Teague = an empty chair.
It's a good spin after the fact... but still a lost opportunity.
What do you think they were going to get for Teague? I was saying before the trade they weren't going to get much if anything for him (so this isn't just after the fact spin) and I actually brought up Crabbe as a salary match. Was there some other comparable deal where a team got something back for a guy like Teague?
I don't mean to make it seem like I'm attacking you.
But I've read so many posts here by so many people about the value of picks... and now a 2nd rd. pick as the same value as an empty roster spot.
Meh.
Maybe a 2nd rd. pick was out of the picture. Maybe Crabbe was worth the gamble. But maybe the Wolves could have at least waited another month for the trade market to shake out to see for certain? Was jettisoning Teague right then really that vital? Was it part of the tank? Was it for some behind-the-scenes stuff with other player(s)?
No worries. I get your point and Teague was certainly a missed opportunity. I was more commenting about the idea that Glen is giddy with this plan. I had hope they were going to be able to raise Teague's value to get something out of him but as time went on it seemed clear to me that wasn't going to be the case.
I think you are onto something about taking a gamble on Crabbe. Shot over 38% from 3 and played in 2 systems that assistant coaches were a part of. In true Wolves fashion he couldn't hit the broadside of the barn and I'm a sorta fan of Crabbe but he didn't look great. It made sense to basically buy low and hope you get a decent cheap shooter cheap. Pretty much EVERY team is looking for shooters but the wolves have needed that for some fans lifetimes. lol Wolfson reported Crabbe wanted out and gave up a decent chunk to do it. I think once the wolves were over the lux tax they were much more willing to save money. Again do I blame them? No.
You don't win all these type of things. Teague Wiggins and Dieng were the overpaid contracts going into the season. Teague they traded for basically nothing. Dieng Raised his value some and they traded him for a similar overpaid player that is likely more useful in Johnson especially considering the system this franchise has chose to run AND he makes over a million less money. The Wolves moves Wiggins to GS to get Russell and only gave up ONE 1st round pick. I'd say the team went 2 for 3 or maybe 1.7232453 for 3 on their overpaid contract players. :)
So here is the question...how many times have the Wolves made moves to open up a roster spot so they can sign a vet player or a young player or whatever...when has that worked out long term? Racking my brain I can't think of anything for this storied franchise. If the Wolves use that roster spot for someone either a 2-way guy or maybe even Spellman or Evans (doubtful Evans becomes anything) or someone else they sign becomes an even moderately useful nba player then the deal makes more sense.
If it's JUST about money and Graham was a guy nobody would have taken for free and they would have had to waive him then let's add this up...you have half million savings for Crabbe instead of Teague over 1.5 million for Graham and then the reported over 700k Crabbe took in the buyout so that's almost 3 million and then you have the 1.5 times lux tax payments that's over 4 million in savings right? Thats not a small amount of money in savings. Just sayin. If they end up out of the luxury tax altogether the money saved/gained grows more and they don't have to worry about any repercussions of being a tax team this year that will add more value to the move. Again...just sayin.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:So we're ultimately happy that the Wolves traded an asset in Teague just to save Taylor some money?
Nobody is "happy" about that deal but maybe...ok-ish? FWIW Teague has shot pretty poorly in Atlanta. I was one of the biggest Teague supporters here but I didn't think we would get more than a decent 2nd rounder for him anyway. They got an extra roster spot in that deal I don't know what kind of value Graham did or didn't have. An open roster spot might have about as much value as a 2nd round pick depending on various moves and who you can keep/sign afterwards. Plenty of good teams made moves to save money before the deadline. I don't see a significant consequence in doing this deal especially since McLaughlin has played well after dealing Teague.
So essentially...
Teague = an empty chair.
It's a good spin after the fact... but still a lost opportunity.
What do you think they were going to get for Teague? I was saying before the trade they weren't going to get much if anything for him (so this isn't just after the fact spin) and I actually brought up Crabbe as a salary match. Was there some other comparable deal where a team got something back for a guy like Teague?
I don't mean to make it seem like I'm attacking you.
But I've read so many posts here by so many people about the value of picks... and now a 2nd rd. pick as the same value as an empty roster spot.
Meh.
Maybe a 2nd rd. pick was out of the picture. Maybe Crabbe was worth the gamble. But maybe the Wolves could have at least waited another month for the trade market to shake out to see for certain? Was jettisoning Teague right then really that vital? Was it part of the tank? Was it for some behind-the-scenes stuff with other player(s)?
No worries. I get your point and Teague was certainly a missed opportunity. I was more commenting about the idea that Glen is giddy with this plan. I had hope they were going to be able to raise Teague's value to get something out of him but as time went on it seemed clear to me that wasn't going to be the case.
I think you are onto something about taking a gamble on Crabbe. Shot over 38% from 3 and played in 2 systems that assistant coaches were a part of. In true Wolves fashion he couldn't hit the broadside of the barn and I'm a sorta fan of Crabbe but he didn't look great. It made sense to basically buy low and hope you get a decent cheap shooter cheap. Pretty much EVERY team is looking for shooters but the wolves have needed that for some fans lifetimes. lol Wolfson reported Crabbe wanted out and gave up a decent chunk to do it. I think once the wolves were over the lux tax they were much more willing to save money. Again do I blame them? No.
You don't win all these type of things. Teague Wiggins and Dieng were the overpaid contracts going into the season. Teague they traded for basically nothing. Dieng Raised his value some and they traded him for a similar overpaid player that is likely more useful in Johnson especially considering the system this franchise has chose to run AND he makes over a million less money. The Wolves moves Wiggins to GS to get Russell and only gave up ONE 1st round pick. I'd say the team went 2 for 3 or maybe 1.7232453 for 3 on their overpaid contract players. :)
So here is the question...how many times have the Wolves made moves to open up a roster spot so they can sign a vet player or a young player or whatever...when has that worked out long term? Racking my brain I can't think of anything for this storied franchise. If the Wolves use that roster spot for someone either a 2-way guy or maybe even Spellman or Evans (doubtful Evans becomes anything) or someone else they sign becomes an even moderately useful nba player then the deal makes more sense.
If it's JUST about money and Graham was a guy nobody would have taken for free and they would have had to waive him then let's add this up...you have half million savings for Crabbe instead of Teague over 1.5 million for Graham and then the reported over 700k Crabbe took in the buyout so that's almost 3 million and then you have the 1.5 times lux tax payments that's over 4 million in savings right? Thats not a small amount of money in savings. Just sayin. If they end up out of the luxury tax altogether the money saved/gained grows more and they don't have to worry about any repercussions of being a tax team this year that will add more value to the move. Again...just sayin.
All fair points.
To summarize... The Wolves are 18 - 42 and in the hunt for the 2nd worst team in the League... despite having two #1 draft picks in their prime on max deals ... and while skirting with the luxury tax.
Cool. Well-run organization by Mr. Taylor.
[Note: I know Rosas is trying to work his way out of these problems. But the fact that we as fans are asked to be cool with this level of dysfunction... again... remains puzzling and amusing to me. Taylor is the worst... almost. At least he doesn't have a Dolan- or Sarver-sized ego.]
How do we know he doesnt have that big of an ego? He has had no problem being the lead voice of the "poor owners" in the CBA negotiations. He's publicly ripped his players. Maybe if Minnesota fans werent so polite and booed their team and Glen Taylor every home game he'd respond the same way as Dolan. God knows we would have a right to boo.
