Rubio VS Bayless - GDT

[AbeVigodaLive]

Is there a stat where we can see how many offensive fouls KAT has?

Doesn't he lead the league in fouls? He must have 2x as many as the next guy in offensive fouls? 29 points in a half vs. a very good defensive team was nice.

Wiggins was inefficient. And sloppy. But he had to push it a bit with a lot of guys out. That's not really who he is.

Saric is scuffling... and it's not new. Terrible tonight. Might have something to do with that hit to the choppers last night?

A CJ Wilson sighting. Another Deng sighting. Terrell. Bayless.

Another loss... but they battled.

[Leado01]

I thought Wiggins effort was very high tonight. Beyond the 11  boards there were several tips.
In a loss that could have been a win, KAT, as great as he was after Dieng went down, was pretty deplorable until then. Guys coming off the bench came im flat footed, esp in 3rd.
Stupid non hussle reaching fouls.
Yes KAT was amazing when Gobert was out into the 4th, and good when he came back, but Bayless and Wiggins (and Deng) provided consistent effort and didn't let their emotions take over.
Okogie is learning!

[crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]]

Wiggins tried his best, but 8-26 with 5 TOs just isn't going to get it done. The 11 boards were nice.

I didn't watch the game. Apparently, we fought back from a 23-point third quarter deficit? Impressive. Just looking at the box score, I'm surprised we came so close to winning. KAT's numbers look tremendous, but foul trouble appears to have limited his minutes. Take away the early fouls and KAT probably would have had 35 minutes rather than 28 minutes, which would have likely led to a Wolves win. As much as the team suffered last season when Butler wasn't playing, KAT's presence on the court means even more to the Wolves than Butler's did last season.

But regardless of how many minutes or how well KAT plays, the Wolves aren't going to win many games when one of their other players takes 26 shots and makes only 8 of them (31%) while also missing 3 of 7 free throws (57%). Worse yet, that player, Wiggins, had 5 turnovers. I like that Wiggins had 11 boards and he may have defended well (I'll have to watch the DVR). But Andrew's incredibly inefficient high-volume shooting combined with all those turnovers made a Wolves win almost impossible.

Looks from the box score like Saric was largely invisible.

Overall, I love the fight this team must have shown to come back and almost beat a very good team on the road on a back-to-back.

Wiggs had to push it because there was no one else. He was attacking down hill all game and most of his misses were at the rim against gobert and favors. It's how we want him to play on both sides of the ball, it's just unfortunate that he couldn't hit a few of those lay ups. He and bayless were visibly gassed and u could see it in their shots. The jazz were also getting away with grabbing wiggs most of the game. Wiggs was visibly upset enough to even complain to the refs, saunders upset enough to get a technical, then taj blew up because the refs were letting it go.

But I guess it is easier to blame wiggs for losses.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Yeah, Ryan is doing everything possible to keep Wiggins engaged and as others said, there is really no other options to create from the perimeter with Rose and Teague out. I give him an A for effort last night, but there were a lot of bad turnovers and missed shots.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

Yeah, Ryan is doing everything possible to keep Wiggins engaged and as others said, there is really no other options to create from the perimeter with Rose and Teague out. I give him an A for effort last night, but there were a lot of bad turnovers and missed shots.

Yeah, there was a lot about Wig to be frustrated about last night...the TOs were about as bad as they have been all season, and he also missed more shots around the basket than any game I have seen this year. But over time, this team is going to be better with an engaged Wig, so on balance I see last night as positive. Like Ryan, I want him going "downhill" rather than settling for jumpers, and he certainly tried to do that despite the intimidating presence of Gobert (what a game changer he is!). And I found his effort on defense, the boards and chasing loose balls at a much higher effort than usual...a low bar, to be sure, but noticeable.
I noticed something else in the first half that I have been calling for from Wig but haven't seen. He actually gathered the ball on his hip during a drive (like KAT and Josh do so well) to protect it from the defense. I only noticed it once because the rest of the game he had the ball out there for the taking. But if he can learn to protect the ball like he did once in the first half, his game could take a quantum leap.

[Monster]

Ok just finished watching the game. Hell of a fight back to make this a game. What was the deal with the shotclock not resetting after that missed dunk by Royce O'Neal? He missed it with like 23 seconds. That last bucket should have either never counted or play should have been stopped.

[Monster]

Why would deng take that shot?

Argh!!!!! We had the full shot clock left didn't we?

I'm actually cool with it. An open corner 3. It just didn't fall

I wasn't happy with it at first but you watch the replay and it was wide open and he took it. Plus if you miss you have time to get a rebound and score again. Is there really a guarantee you will get a better look than that?

[Monster]

So who won? Bayless or Rubio?

Gonna be interesting to see who the match up is in MN. Will Teague be back to mix it up?! Lol Bayless helped us in this game no doubt.

[Monster]

On Wiggins the guy was everywhere for a lot of the 4th quarter. Honestly I don't think it's his handle that's a problem it's just his hands. Some people have sticky and or strong hands. Wiggins just doesn't. He just doesn't have that. I have no idea if you can improve on that but it's not as much a skill or even effort thing it's just something he lacks. It's kinda weird and unexpected how much it effects a player.

I thought Terrell had some good moments. I thought his individual defense looked pretty good. There were a number of times he cut off his guy. I think one time he got to a spot Rubio went to and Rubio or whoever the player was didn't expect it and either traveled (wasn't called) or nearly did. All things considered he helped hold the fort. Ryan only had so many options in this game and everyone gave a bit of something. Ryan is much more willing to get guys various stunts than Thibs. He threw Tolliver in which was huge with a couple made 3's and brought in some energy.

[Monster]

Utah isn't exactly a defensive juggernaut or anything but the short handed Wolves played some pretty good defense overall in this game. The Wolves held their own onthr boards going against a team that's pretty big. Utah isn't quite full strength with Rubio in a minutes restriction and Exum out but compare that to the Wolves who played over 80 combined minutes of Bayless Terrell C.J. Williams and Deng.

Also didn't the Wolves have like 12 turnover in the first half? They finished with 14.