Best piece of information in the entire piece for me.
"The Wolves will have both the $8.6 midlevel and $3.4 million biannual exceptions but will need to keep a close eye on staying below the tax threshold."
Best piece of information in the entire piece for me.
"The Wolves will have both the $8.6 midlevel and $3.4 million biannual exceptions but will need to keep a close eye on staying below the tax threshold."
That gets me going.
Yes, that is very good news!
I can see it now...a line circling the entire Target Center of free agents who are dying to become part of Thibs' bench!
Best piece of information in the entire piece for me.
"The Wolves will have both the $8.6 midlevel and $3.4 million biannual exceptions but will need to keep a close eye on staying below the tax threshold."
That gets me going.
Yes, that is very good news!
I can see it now...a line circling the entire Target Center of free agents who are dying to become part of Thibs' bench!
I was talking to Jeff Adrien the other day. He wouldn't mind sitting on the bench all season since he really wants to focus on his pickleball game. So there's at least one right there that might be interested.
rapsuperstar31 wrote:Couple of small rumors that may or may not be true that we may want to explore.
1. Washington might be willing to trade 15 if someone will take an expiring contract.
Would it make sense to go after 15 maybe Cole for 15 and Morris saves them 6 mill and will hurt us salary wise.
2. In Espn's 6 best nba draft trades they would like to see. they list Lakers might want to trade the 25th draft pick for second round picks to get out of a guaranteed contract so they can chase players this off season.
Would they take our 2nd and a future 2nd for the 25th? Could take Shamet, Allen, Mitchell, or Trent after taking someone else with our earlier pick.
I like the Morris trade and don't think it'd hurt the Wolves that much considering Crawford is likely walking and Belly too expensive. I would do that without #15 attached to it. Wolves aren't going to do better in free agency than Markieff Morris 1 year for 8.6 million.
I'm gonna guess they are looking more at a team taking on Mahinmi (2 years 31 million) not Morris who is an 8 million dollar expiring who can actually play and will be valuable on the trade market either for his contract or his play...or both.
I bet IF the Lakers are willing to dump that 1st round pick they will have plenty of interesting offers. Some teams have multiple 2nd round picks this year they could offer. Heck the Lakers could just pick someone at #25 and trade them later.
While you might be right, you never know what other teams are willing to do until you call them up. That Dwight for Mozgov deal certainly shows some teams will take a bad deal if it gets them out of the luxury tax for next year. Washington may be no different. Looking at Washington's future cap situation sure does paint the picture that we need to move either Wiggins or Butler at some point, man that 98 million dollar pay roll in 2020-2021 for just 3 players looks awful for Washington and will be us if we sign Butler and keep Wiggins long term. Dieng also absolutely has to be moved at some point, as our payroll in 20-21 will be north of 110 million just for Dieng, Wiggins, Butler and Towns.
rapsuperstar31 wrote:Couple of small rumors that may or may not be true that we may want to explore.
1. Washington might be willing to trade 15 if someone will take an expiring contract.
Would it make sense to go after 15 maybe Cole for 15 and Morris saves them 6 mill and will hurt us salary wise.
2. In Espn's 6 best nba draft trades they would like to see. they list Lakers might want to trade the 25th draft pick for second round picks to get out of a guaranteed contract so they can chase players this off season.
Would they take our 2nd and a future 2nd for the 25th? Could take Shamet, Allen, Mitchell, or Trent after taking someone else with our earlier pick.
I like the Morris trade and don't think it'd hurt the Wolves that much considering Crawford is likely walking and Belly too expensive. I would do that without #15 attached to it. Wolves aren't going to do better in free agency than Markieff Morris 1 year for 8.6 million.
I'm gonna guess they are looking more at a team taking on Mahinmi (2 years 31 million) not Morris who is an 8 million dollar expiring who can actually play and will be valuable on the trade market either for his contract or his play...or both.
I bet IF the Lakers are willing to dump that 1st round pick they will have plenty of interesting offers. Some teams have multiple 2nd round picks this year they could offer. Heck the Lakers could just pick someone at #25 and trade them later.
While you might be right, you never know what other teams are willing to do until you call them up. That Dwight for Mozgov deal certainly shows some teams will take a bad deal if it gets them out of the luxury tax for next year. Washington may be no different. Looking at Washington's future cap situation sure does paint the picture that we need to move either Wiggins or Butler at some point, man that 98 million dollar pay roll in 2020-2021 for just 3 players looks awful for Washington and will be us if we sign Butler and keep Wiggins long term. Dieng also absolutely has to be moved at some point, as our payroll in 20-21 will be north of 110 million just for Dieng, Wiggins, Butler and Towns.
I'll concede Dieng needing to be moved eventually, likely when his contract won't be too hard to swallow for another team. Needing to trade Wiggins and Butler to avoid luxury tax would piss me off. If it's based on talent acquisition fine, but a salary dump of those two would annoy me. If the Wolves are serious about making a run with Jimmy, Towns, and Wiggins (or whatever piece(s) take his place) then at least one season of a hefty luxury tax is necessary. After that by all means dump to avoid the repeater and regroup with what they can salvage, but go for it at least once in the next 2-3 seasons.
Best piece of information in the entire piece for me.
"The Wolves will have both the $8.6 midlevel and $3.4 million biannual exceptions but will need to keep a close eye on staying below the tax threshold."
That gets me going.
Yes, that is very good news!
I can see it now...a line circling the entire Target Center of free agents who are dying to become part of Thibs' bench!
lol. Well, all the more reason to be happy we have the full MLE. As we've seen, the only way Thibs gets free agents to sign is by outbidding other teams. Gibson wanted to stay with the Thunder, but they weren't willing to pay him what Thibs offered. I find it hard to believe anyone else was offering Teague $19 million per year for 3 years. There were no public reports of any interest by other teams in signing Teague. Rose finally came here when it was clear no one else wanted him. So Thibodeau is going to need every penny of that $8.6 million MLE to have any chance of luring a decent FA here.
Best piece of information in the entire piece for me.
"The Wolves will have both the $8.6 midlevel and $3.4 million biannual exceptions but will need to keep a close eye on staying below the tax threshold."
That gets me going.
Yes, that is very good news!
I can see it now...a line circling the entire Target Center of free agents who are dying to become part of Thibs' bench!
lol. Well, all the more reason to be happy we have the full MLE. As we've seen, the only way Thibs gets free agents to sign is by outbidding other teams. Gibson wanted to stay with the Thunder, but they weren't willing to pay him what Thibs offered. I find it hard to believe anyone else was offering Teague $19 million per year for 3 years. There were no public reports of any interest by other teams in signing Teague. Rose finally came here when it was clear no one else wanted him. So Thibodeau is going to need every penny of that $8.6 million MLE to have any chance of luring a decent FA here.
It was pretty widely reported the Knicks wanted Teague and were willing to pay the same range the Wolves were.
its just a little over 24 hours till the NBA draft. Does anyone have a guy they really want at #20? How about a perfect somewhat reasonable draft of both the #20 and #48 pick?
Josh Okogie is the guy that intrigues me the most at #20 but most mocks have him a few spots lower.
So my perfect draft* would be Okogie at #20 then Either Justin Jackson for a lengthy combo forward with upside at #48 or a shooter whoever falls.
* the other option is some sort of trade down (Layden did mention today at the PC depth means trading down was an option) and get Okogie or even Thomas and another player with a higher 2nd round pick like Shamet Trent or even one of the International wings. I'm certainly not getting my hopes up for a trade down, but its interesting to think about...I say this every year I think. lol
Best piece of information in the entire piece for me.
"The Wolves will have both the $8.6 midlevel and $3.4 million biannual exceptions but will need to keep a close eye on staying below the tax threshold."
That gets me going.
Yes, that is very good news!
I can see it now...a line circling the entire Target Center of free agents who are dying to become part of Thibs' bench!
lol. Well, all the more reason to be happy we have the full MLE. As we've seen, the only way Thibs gets free agents to sign is by outbidding other teams. Gibson wanted to stay with the Thunder, but they weren't willing to pay him what Thibs offered. I find it hard to believe anyone else was offering Teague $19 million per year for 3 years. There were no public reports of any interest by other teams in signing Teague. Rose finally came here when it was clear no one else wanted him. So Thibodeau is going to need every penny of that $8.6 million MLE to have any chance of luring a decent FA here.
It was pretty widely reported the Knicks wanted Teague and were willing to pay the same range the Wolves were.
The Knicks? Not exactly the gold standard among NBA organizations. :) Darren Collison at $10 million a year for 2 years was reasonable. $19 million per year for 3 years for Teague was not in my view -- not in the context of other personnel decisions that put us well over the cap and on on the threshold of the luxury tax a year later after barely becoming an 8th seed. I thought we overpaid for Teague at the time and I'm even more convinced now.
My friend just heard from his source who told him the Butler deal would happen a couple months before the fact, that the Wolves will definitely trade #20 in a deal to get rid of Gorgui. The return will be a future draft pick. This same source confirmed what is probably obvious by now -- i.e., the Wolves will re-sign Derrick Rose, but it will likely be for more than the vet minimum.
