Nobody can repeat criticism over an 82-game schedule. Ever.
I'll check back with everybody next October. Enjoy your summers everybody.
C'mon. What are you, 6?
Settle down. I'm being sarcastic.
We should all be able to discuss whatever we want... good or bad or in-between. That's what a sports forum is. Personally, sans the Bazz over Wiggins criticism... I think it's a legit discussion point considering the ramifications his next contract will have for the next few years.
And the fact that it can still illicit discussions means it's a valid one. If it was too one-sided or easy to predict... we wouldn't discuss it. It's sort of like the Rubio deal. It was such a big part of the franchise that it was hard to ignore after awhile... for all the good and bad it brought to the board.
Nobody can repeat criticism over an 82-game schedule. Ever.
I'll check back with everybody next October. Enjoy your summers everybody.
C'mon. What are you, 6?
Settle down. I'm being sarcastic.
We should all be able to discuss whatever we want... good or bad or in-between. That's what a sports forum is. Personally, sans the Bazz over Wiggins criticism... I think it's a legit discussion point considering the ramifications his next contract will have for the next few years.
And the fact that it can still illicit discussions means it's a valid one. If it was too one-sided or easy to predict... we wouldn't discuss it. It's sort of like the Rubio deal. It was such a big part of the franchise that it was hard to ignore after awhile... for all the good and bad it brought to the board.
It hasn't been much of a discussion lately. It's pretty much he plays poorly he gets criticized. He plays well he gets criticized that he doesn't do it more often. If he does show any improvement it's never good enough to warrant 30 million which he's not even making yet. That's not a discussion really worth having any more because he's literally going to have to play like a superstar for probably a whole year straight before his detractors here would change their tune.
Nobody can repeat criticism over an 82-game schedule. Ever.
I'll check back with everybody next October. Enjoy your summers everybody.
C'mon. What are you, 6?
Settle down. I'm being sarcastic.
We should all be able to discuss whatever we want... good or bad or in-between. That's what a sports forum is. Personally, sans the Bazz over Wiggins criticism... I think it's a legit discussion point considering the ramifications his next contract will have for the next few years.
And the fact that it can still illicit discussions means it's a valid one. If it was too one-sided or easy to predict... we wouldn't discuss it. It's sort of like the Rubio deal. It was such a big part of the franchise that it was hard to ignore after awhile... for all the good and bad it brought to the board.
It hasn't been much of a discussion lately. It's pretty much he plays poorly he gets criticized. He plays well he gets criticized that he doesn't do it more often. If he does show any improvement it's never good enough to warrant 30 million which he's not even making yet. That's not a discussion really worth having any more because he's literally going to have to play like a superstar for probably a whole year straight before his detractors here would change their tune.
No, he doesn't need to play like a superstar. He needs to play like an above average starting NBA wing for a couple months straight, because if he does that, we probably lock up a top 3 seed and find ourselves winning at least one playoff series.
I guarantee if Wiggins was averaging something like 18 pts / 5 reb / 3 ast / 1.5 stl on 46/37/78 shooting splits and playing decent individual/team defense like he's shown capable of the past month, the entire board would be overflowing with love for the guy, and rightfully so. Not only would that be a fantastic third option, but he'd be a pretty efficient role player as well. I don't even think it's out of reach for the guy either. That's basically what I'm hoping he gets to and that's a very good NBA player still.
If he wanted to corral more rebounds and steals, I'm confident he could. If he wanted to get more easy buckets in transition, and live at the rim in the halfcourt, thus increasing his efficiency from the field, I'm confident he could. I think he has decent mechanics with his jumper, but we have yet to see actual growth from 3P-range. With the scoring options around him, and the gravitational pull he could attract from defenses if he was attacking more often, I also don't see why he couldn't get to that assist mark either. And I can't even explain the complete fallout in his free throw shooting so I basically have to hope it bounces back at some point.
What's funny is the stat line that I laid out for him is a pretty realistic one in my mind. Would any of you argue that Wiggins couldn't actually average that for the year, 3P-shooting aside? If he could, he'd be one of just 10 players doing exactly that this season, which would be very impressive.
For single seasons, played in the NBA/BAA, in the regular season, in 2017-18, requiring Rebounds Per Game >= 5 and Assists Per Game >= 3 and Points Per Game >= 18 and Steals Per Game >= 1.5, sorted by descending Win Shares
1. Giannis Antetokounmpo
2. LeBron James
3. Jimmy Butler
4. Steph Curry
5. Russell Westbrook
6. Chris Paul
7. Victor Oladipo
8. Paul George
9. DeMarcus Cousins
Please stop me if I'm way off base, I beg you, but I don't think that's unattainable for a player as gifted as Wiggins, but he'd absolutely have to be more consistent with his energy output and a lot smarter with the basketball. That's the line I want to see him get to. And that kind of productivity would be well worth a max contract and would satisfy me as a fan of the Wolves. Now let's see it.
