The measurements are in, the measurements are in!!!
- Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
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The measurements are in, the measurements are in!!!
Ah yes, the wait is over. We can finally pour over the measurables of our favorite prospects from the NBA Draft Combine....er....or at least some of them since the top ones no longer show up.
A couple of notable areas (all heights are without shoes, so they will be listed much taller in official NBA rosters and player profiles):
- Zach Collins, a name a few of us have bandied about on this board, came in at the exact same height as KAT, a touch over 6'10" without shoes, 232 lbs., and a 7'1" wing span, which is a bit shorter than KATs. I think in today's NBA, any concern about his length should be put to rest. He doesn't have great length, but it's good enough to play C or PF in today's NBA. It's all about his mobility and skills. For the sake of comparison, he's coming in around the same weight as the Plumlee brothers and Cody Zeller. His wingspan is longer than the Plumlee brothers and both Zeller brothers.
- Ike Anigbogu came in at 6'8.5", 252 lbs, and a 7'6.3" wingspan, which is massive. This dude is a physical specimen and only 18 years old still. If Thibs is looking to trade down and groom a potential defensive stud over the next few years, he could do worse than this guy. Comparison: Bismack Biyombo had pretty much the exact same measurements.
- OG Anunoby came in at 6'6", 232 lbs., and a 7'2" wingspan. Comparison: Kawhi Leonard was measured at 6'6", 227 lbs, and a 7"3 wingspan.
I realize this is minor stuff compared to their skills, athleticism, motor, work ethic, IQ, etc., but thought it was some interesting info to share. Of course you can go to DraftExpress and pour over the data yourself (Lip, I know you are all over it!).
A couple of notable areas (all heights are without shoes, so they will be listed much taller in official NBA rosters and player profiles):
- Zach Collins, a name a few of us have bandied about on this board, came in at the exact same height as KAT, a touch over 6'10" without shoes, 232 lbs., and a 7'1" wing span, which is a bit shorter than KATs. I think in today's NBA, any concern about his length should be put to rest. He doesn't have great length, but it's good enough to play C or PF in today's NBA. It's all about his mobility and skills. For the sake of comparison, he's coming in around the same weight as the Plumlee brothers and Cody Zeller. His wingspan is longer than the Plumlee brothers and both Zeller brothers.
- Ike Anigbogu came in at 6'8.5", 252 lbs, and a 7'6.3" wingspan, which is massive. This dude is a physical specimen and only 18 years old still. If Thibs is looking to trade down and groom a potential defensive stud over the next few years, he could do worse than this guy. Comparison: Bismack Biyombo had pretty much the exact same measurements.
- OG Anunoby came in at 6'6", 232 lbs., and a 7'2" wingspan. Comparison: Kawhi Leonard was measured at 6'6", 227 lbs, and a 7"3 wingspan.
I realize this is minor stuff compared to their skills, athleticism, motor, work ethic, IQ, etc., but thought it was some interesting info to share. Of course you can go to DraftExpress and pour over the data yourself (Lip, I know you are all over it!).
- AbeVigodaLive
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As a 6'0" former PG who went next-to-nowhere in hoops... who was recently mocked by a tailor (and my gal pal) for "abnormally short arms"... I'm always amazed at the wingspan of NBA players. Anigbogu is a freak. Damn.
- TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]
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I think wingspan is very useful, but vertical jump seems like a pretty overrated stat. Kawhi and Klay Thompson had below average verticals (31.5 & 32) and there are many guys who jumped in the 40s that never had much of an NBA career.
- TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]
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Flynn had a 40 inch vertical (highest in his draft class) ahead of Curry's 35.5 and Wes had a 37 while Cousins was at 27.5. Damn Kahn!!
- BloopOracle
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Re: The measurements are in, the measurements are in!!!
"- Zach Collins, a name a few of us have bandied about on this board, came in at the exact same height as KAT, a touch over 6'10" without shoes, 232 lbs., and a 7'1" wing span, which is a bit shorter than KATs. I think in today's NBA, any concern about his length should be put to rest. He doesn't have great length, but it's good enough to play C or PF in today's NBA. It's all about his mobility and skills. For the sake of comparison, he's coming in around the same weight as the Plumlee brothers and Cody Zeller. His wingspan is longer than the Plumlee brothers and both Zeller brothers."
I still think his length with be a problem, he plays small at the hoop
Plumlees and Zellers don't excite me either, if only he was more like Robin Lopez
I still think his length with be a problem, he plays small at the hoop
Plumlees and Zellers don't excite me either, if only he was more like Robin Lopez
- WildWolf2813
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Re: The measurements are in, the measurements are in!!!
Homicide Hamidou Diallo with a 44.5 inch vert. I wish he'd stay at Kentucky because I think he needs to work on his game, but if he pans out, he's Wiggins with heart
- SameOldNudityDrew
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I really like Anigbogu too for the size.
One question for me is how many positions he could defend and could he be able to switch out onto the perimeter, and here's where OG is more attractive to me because I think he'd fit more of the small-ball the league seems to be heading in. These days, it seems like if your bigs can't switch onto the perimeter, opposing offenses just pick and roll the hell out of you. Golden State and Houston are just killing people with this. I can see OG moving us a step toward being able to switch on D like Golden State does.
On the other hand, Anigbogu could give us more legitimate size and rim protection at the 5. Still, unless you're getting a guy like Gobert, I'm not sure how much a rim-protector helps us. KAT and Gorgui tried a good deal of that this year and it hurt our rebounding at times.
Either way, we need some more physicality on this team. We don't have a single rotation guy who I would consider a tough, physical player.
One question for me is how many positions he could defend and could he be able to switch out onto the perimeter, and here's where OG is more attractive to me because I think he'd fit more of the small-ball the league seems to be heading in. These days, it seems like if your bigs can't switch onto the perimeter, opposing offenses just pick and roll the hell out of you. Golden State and Houston are just killing people with this. I can see OG moving us a step toward being able to switch on D like Golden State does.
On the other hand, Anigbogu could give us more legitimate size and rim protection at the 5. Still, unless you're getting a guy like Gobert, I'm not sure how much a rim-protector helps us. KAT and Gorgui tried a good deal of that this year and it hurt our rebounding at times.
Either way, we need some more physicality on this team. We don't have a single rotation guy who I would consider a tough, physical player.
- Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
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Re: The measurements are in, the measurements are in!!!
SameOldNudityDrew wrote:I really like Anigbogu too for the size.
One question for me is how many positions he could defend and could he be able to switch out onto the perimeter, and here's where OG is more attractive to me because I think he'd fit more of the small-ball the league seems to be heading in. These days, it seems like if your bigs can't switch onto the perimeter, opposing offenses just pick and roll the hell out of you. Golden State and Houston are just killing people with this. I can see OG moving us a step toward being able to switch on D like Golden State does.
On the other hand, Anigbogu could give us more legitimate size and rim protection at the 5. Still, unless you're getting a guy like Gobert, I'm not sure how much a rim-protector helps us. KAT and Gorgui tried a good deal of that this year and it hurt our rebounding at times.
Either way, we need some more physicality on this team. We don't have a single rotation guy who I would consider a tough, physical player.[/quote]
Kris Dunn fits this category, but yeah, he's the only one.
- Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
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Re: The measurements are in, the measurements are in!!!
TeamRicky wrote:I think wingspan is very useful, but vertical jump seems like a pretty overrated stat. Kawhi and Klay Thompson had below average verticals (31.5 & 32) and there are many guys who jumped in the 40s that never had much of an NBA career.
I tend to agree with you. Wingspan helps on both ends. Also, if you have a long wingspan, you don't necessarily have to jump high!
- Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
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Re: The measurements are in, the measurements are in!!!
BloopOracle wrote:"- Zach Collins, a name a few of us have bandied about on this board, came in at the exact same height as KAT, a touch over 6'10" without shoes, 232 lbs., and a 7'1" wing span, which is a bit shorter than KATs. I think in today's NBA, any concern about his length should be put to rest. He doesn't have great length, but it's good enough to play C or PF in today's NBA. It's all about his mobility and skills. For the sake of comparison, he's coming in around the same weight as the Plumlee brothers and Cody Zeller. His wingspan is longer than the Plumlee brothers and both Zeller brothers."
I still think his length with be a problem, he plays small at the hoop
Plumlees and Zellers don't excite me either, if only he was more like Robin Lopez
Collins's rebounding and shot blocking don't indicate smallness at the hoop to me, but he was in a weaker conference, playing against less athletic bigs, etc. I'm sure he needs to get stronger.