Q12543 wrote:Mmmmm, there is the "do shit" list and the "motor" list, which aren't necessarily the same thing but definitely has a lot of overlap. Here is my all-motor list:
1. Rubio
2. Bazz
3. KAT
4. Dieng
5. Dunn
Honorable Mention: LaVine, because he runs hard in transition.
Here is my all do shit list (same as above except swap out Bazz for Jones):
1. Dunn
2. Rubio
3. Dieng
4. KAT
5. Jones
I agree with your do-shit list. I neglected to put Gorgui on my All-Motor Team. He should definitely be on both lists.
I completely agree with the lists Q. The other reason I think Lavine having an honorable mention on the hustle team is he ran his butt off cutting and looking to get open off the ball. He led the league in distance traveled per game at one point and you don't do that without putting in some legit effort even if you are playing a lot of minutes.
thedoper wrote:I'm assuming that off-season work ethic doesn't factor into motor?
if it did, Wiggins wouldn't make the roster
To be fair none of us know for sure who does what during the offseason. Just need to post a 15 sec clip on social media and we think they are working hard
There is plenty of reports out there that say Wiggins works his ass off in the offseason. That's not a problem.
Exactly. I was wasn't saying he didn't. I was saying all people have to do today is post a 15 sec clip of a workout and they are good to go
thedoper wrote:I'm assuming that off-season work ethic doesn't factor into motor?
if it did, Wiggins wouldn't make the roster
To be fair none of us know for sure who does what during the offseason. Just need to post a 15 sec clip on social media and we think they are working hard
There is plenty of reports out there that say Wiggins works his ass off in the offseason. That's not a problem.
Exactly. I was wasn't saying he didn't. I was saying all people have to do today is post a 15 sec clip of a workout and they are good to go
Agreed. I think Wiggins works hard on his game and we will continue to see further growth from him.
That being said, I have accepted him for what he is - a gifted scorer that will keep getting better offensively, but whose ability to impact the game in multiple other ways is limited. If a guy isn't taking charges, making weak side blocks, getting steals, etc. in college and his first few years in the league, he isn't going to suddenly start doing it four years into his career.
Every team needs at least a couple of go-to guys that can create offense out of nothing. It's a really important role that he fills for us. We just need to make sure we surround him with players that can do all of the other "high motor/do shit" stuff that he is lacking.
thedoper wrote:I'm assuming that off-season work ethic doesn't factor into motor?
if it did, Wiggins wouldn't make the roster
To be fair none of us know for sure who does what during the offseason. Just need to post a 15 sec clip on social media and we think they are working hard
There is plenty of reports out there that say Wiggins works his ass off in the offseason. That's not a problem.
Exactly. I was wasn't saying he didn't. I was saying all people have to do today is post a 15 sec clip of a workout and they are good to go
Agreed. I think Wiggins works hard on his game and we will continue to see further growth from him.
That being said, I have accepted him for what he is - a gifted scorer that will keep getting better offensively, but whose ability to impact the game in multiple other ways is limited. If a guy isn't taking charges, making weak side blocks, getting steals, etc. in college and his first few years in the league, he isn't going to suddenly start doing it four years into his career.
Every team needs at least a couple of go-to guys that can create offense out of nothing. It's a really important role that he fills for us. We just need to make sure we surround him with players that can do all of the other "high motor/do shit" stuff that he is lacking.
Agreed. You can win a championship with a scorer and nothing much else look at Irving. But point wiggins needs to become a legit threat and defense needs to become above average.
