So....about hoping others teams pick PG's

[Monster]

I'll defend Wolfson a bit here. I used to dismiss more of what he has to say but I'd buy more what he has to say that a couple years ago when he got the Payne draft pick wrong. I'd still easily take what Jon K said about anything to do with the NBA over Wolfson but Wolfson works hard to get info and develop some relationships. His podcast has plenty of legit folks on it. So i don't dismiss the text he said he received but let's also realize that some top NBA folks have seemingly gotten the wrong info about Rubio deals in the last few months so...where is this coming from? If Wolfson is wrong here maybe we can give him a break? I'm personally still skeptical that Rubio is that aggressively looking to move on based on other info I have heard but we will see but we never know.

Like Lip said the grass may look greener and Rubio has plenty of logical reasons to want to try and go somewhere else. The problem is...I think it's possible he ends up at:

1. A team that's no better than the Wolves and probably worse

2. Ends up as a backup when he isn't the guy his new team wants

3. Ends up being moved around from team to team in deals or FA contracts because he is good enough people want him especially if he continues to have a reasonable contract (likely) but not enough to be entrenched there. Unless the Wolves actually gave a guy good enough to supplant him as a starter this team might be as good of a fit as he could find. That guy to take his job could come in this draft or if Dunn actually comes around and shows he can actually play PG like many basketball folks thought he could. I'd still say it's more than likely he is the starting PG when the Wolves open the season than not.

[kekgeek]

I'll defend Wolfson a bit here. I used to dismiss more of what he has to say but I'd buy more what he has to say that a couple years ago when he got the Payne draft pick wrong. I'd still easily take what Jon K said about anything to do with the NBA over Wolfson but Wolfson works hard to get info and develop some relationships. His podcast has plenty of legit folks on it. So i don't dismiss the text he said he received but let's also realize that some top NBA folks have seemingly gotten the wrong info about Rubio deals in the last few months so...where is this coming from? If Wolfson is wrong here maybe we can give him a break? I'm personally still skeptical that Rubio is that aggressively looking to move on based on other info I have heard but we will see but we never know.

Like Lip said the grass may look greener and Rubio has plenty of logical reasons to want to try and go somewhere else. The problem is...I think it's possible he ends up at:

1. A team that's no better than the Wolves and probably worse

2. Ends up as a backup when he isn't the guy his new team wants

3. Ends up being moved around from team to team in deals or FA contracts because he is good enough people want him especially if he continues to have a reasonable contract (likely) but not enough to be entrenched there. Unless the Wolves actually gave a guy good enough to supplant him as a starter this team might be as good of a fit as he could find. That guy to take his job could come in this draft or if Dunn actually comes around and shows he can actually play PG like many basketball folks thought he could. I'd still say it's more than likely he is the starting PG when the Wolves open the season than not.

Here is the thing, the wolves are sort of in limbo on ricky because the draft is before free agency.

For example I could see the spurs wanting rubio for something like Rubio for dedmon (the shot blocker that Thibs wants) and pick 28.

So the wolves after that trade would have about 42 mil to spend. So if we could promise that hill, Teague, holiday or Collison. I think it would make sense. So the wolves could end up with for example teague, issac, dedmon and pick #28 and still works have 20ish million left over to spend on depth.


But it is no promise that a free agent would join us and we can't go into next season with Tyus and Dunn at PG and dedmon and a late first is not with the risk without adding a free agent pg.

So with the draft coming first hurts any flexibility the wolves could have if they want it when it comes to ricky.

[Lipoli390]

I'll defend Wolfson a bit here. I used to dismiss more of what he has to say but I'd buy more what he has to say that a couple years ago when he got the Payne draft pick wrong. I'd still easily take what Jon K said about anything to do with the NBA over Wolfson but Wolfson works hard to get info and develop some relationships. His podcast has plenty of legit folks on it. So i don't dismiss the text he said he received but let's also realize that some top NBA folks have seemingly gotten the wrong info about Rubio deals in the last few months so...where is this coming from? If Wolfson is wrong here maybe we can give him a break? I'm personally still skeptical that Rubio is that aggressively looking to move on based on other info I have heard but we will see but we never know.

Like Lip said the grass may look greener and Rubio has plenty of logical reasons to want to try and go somewhere else. The problem is...I think it's possible he ends up at:

1. A team that's no better than the Wolves and probably worse

2. Ends up as a backup when he isn't the guy his new team wants

3. Ends up being moved around from team to team in deals or FA contracts because he is good enough people want him especially if he continues to have a reasonable contract (likely) but not enough to be entrenched there. Unless the Wolves actually gave a guy good enough to supplant him as a starter this team might be as good of a fit as he could find. That guy to take his job could come in this draft or if Dunn actually comes around and shows he can actually play PG like many basketball folks thought he could. I'd still say it's more than likely he is the starting PG when the Wolves open the season than not.

Here is the thing, the wolves are sort of in limbo on ricky because the draft is before free agency.

For example I could see the spurs wanting rubio for something like Rubio for dedmon (the shot blocker that Thibs wants) and pick 28.

So the wolves after that trade would have about 42 mil to spend. So if we could promise that hill, Teague, holiday or Collison. I think it would make sense. So the wolves could end up with for example teague, issac, dedmon and pick #28 and still works have 20ish million left over to spend on depth.


But it is no promise that a free agent would join us and we can't go into next season with Tyus and Dunn at PG and dedmon and a late first is not with the risk without adding a free agent pg.

So with the draft coming first hurts any flexibility the wolves could have if they want it when it comes to ricky.

Nice analysis, Geek. Rubio for Dedmon and #28 is intriguing, assuming we could land one of the FA PGs you mentioned. But Dedmon is a restricted FA and I'm wondering if NBA rules allow a team to sign and trade their own restricted FA. Does anyone know?

[kekgeek]

I'll defend Wolfson a bit here. I used to dismiss more of what he has to say but I'd buy more what he has to say that a couple years ago when he got the Payne draft pick wrong. I'd still easily take what Jon K said about anything to do with the NBA over Wolfson but Wolfson works hard to get info and develop some relationships. His podcast has plenty of legit folks on it. So i don't dismiss the text he said he received but let's also realize that some top NBA folks have seemingly gotten the wrong info about Rubio deals in the last few months so...where is this coming from? If Wolfson is wrong here maybe we can give him a break? I'm personally still skeptical that Rubio is that aggressively looking to move on based on other info I have heard but we will see but we never know.

Like Lip said the grass may look greener and Rubio has plenty of logical reasons to want to try and go somewhere else. The problem is...I think it's possible he ends up at:

1. A team that's no better than the Wolves and probably worse

2. Ends up as a backup when he isn't the guy his new team wants

3. Ends up being moved around from team to team in deals or FA contracts because he is good enough people want him especially if he continues to have a reasonable contract (likely) but not enough to be entrenched there. Unless the Wolves actually gave a guy good enough to supplant him as a starter this team might be as good of a fit as he could find. That guy to take his job could come in this draft or if Dunn actually comes around and shows he can actually play PG like many basketball folks thought he could. I'd still say it's more than likely he is the starting PG when the Wolves open the season than not.

Here is the thing, the wolves are sort of in limbo on ricky because the draft is before free agency.

For example I could see the spurs wanting rubio for something like Rubio for dedmon (the shot blocker that Thibs wants) and pick 28.

So the wolves after that trade would have about 42 mil to spend. So if we could promise that hill, Teague, holiday or Collison. I think it would make sense. So the wolves could end up with for example teague, issac, dedmon and pick #28 and still works have 20ish million left over to spend on depth.


But it is no promise that a free agent would join us and we can't go into next season with Tyus and Dunn at PG and dedmon and a late first is not with the risk without adding a free agent pg.

So with the draft coming first hurts any flexibility the wolves could have if they want it when it comes to ricky.

Nice analysis, Geek. Rubio for Dedmon and #28 is intriguing, assuming we could land one of the FA PGs you mentioned. But Dedmon is a restricted FA and I'm wondering if NBA rules allow a team to sign and trade their own restricted FA. Does anyone know?

Shit I thought he had another year left (I didn't look it up).

That's what sucks though wish the draft was after free agency

*lip I was right he has a player option for next year

[Monster]

Jon K chimes in is this conversation with a fan named David on Twitter.

David to Jon

"@APkrawczynski can you confirm Doogie's statement today that Rubio hired new agent to get out of Minnesota? You're closest to team & RR."

Jon in reply to David

"Wait, sorry. I reported he hired a new agent yesterday. Reason he did was old agent is in serious legal trouble. Not necessarily to get out"

David replys

"oh doog on Mackey & Judd today said RR wants out of Minnesota and told his new agent."

Jon replies with 2 tweets

"I can tell you definitively that getting out of MN was not the main criteria for picking an agent."

"That might be overstating things a little bit. But a move would not surprise me. Both sides certainly open to a move, but nothing decided"