Offseason Targets

[TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]]

We're already talking ourselves into 3rd tier guys. It hurts. Why not Milsap or Ibaka? Either makes us a much better team with no financial impact beyond making Glen spend luxury tax which he has been saving since Cassel left.

Those guys are Plan A. But there will be a lot of demand for those guys so we have to look at Plan B too and even if we were to get Millsap or Ibaka, we need to add more players. I'm not thinking in terms of just one guy, we will have a lot of open roster spots to fill.

[thedoper]

We're already talking ourselves into 3rd tier guys. It hurts. Why not Milsap or Ibaka? Either makes us a much better team with no financial impact beyond making Glen spend luxury tax which he has been saving since Cassel left.

Those guys are Plan A. But there will be a lot of demand for those guys so we have to look at Plan B too and even if we were to get Millsap or Ibaka, we need to add more players. I'm not thinking in terms of just one guy, we will have a lot of open roster spots to fill.

If Thabo or Dudley is Plan B I'm worried about this franchise. Those guys are fine as bench fodder but we need at least one more legitimate starter.

[thedoper]

We're already talking ourselves into 3rd tier guys. It hurts. Why not Milsap or Ibaka? Either makes us a much better team with no financial impact beyond making Glen spend luxury tax which he has been saving since Cassel left.

4 years for max or near max money is why some people would take lesser players for less money shorter contracts. Yes it sucks but sometimes the lesser signings end up being better than expected and there are plenty of times teams spends that big money for good players and it doesn't work out.

Why are we worried about Glens money? A shorter contract won't give us flexibility because KAT is going to max us out anyway. We need to strike now while we have the space.

[kekgeek]

Legit question isn't Thabo just another Brandon Rush. I see Thabo is barley getting run for the Hawks in the playoffs. I know he used to be an above average role player but is he still.

[Coolbreeze44]

Been enjoying reading this discussion. I have my own opinion on most of these guys, but I like the arguments made for Jamychal Green so far.

[kekgeek]

I kinda forgot about Dudley, but he would be a great target for us (trade, right? I don't believe he's an UFA). He's actually a pretty solid defender and hits the 3-ball at an above average clip (well, above average by Wolves standards, that's for sure). He'd be an excellent fit.

Tucker, Thabo, Dudley....liking that list of options.

Dudley was one of my top targets last year and I thought the dollar amount was fine. So we need to sign this year's version of Dudley in free agency. James Johnson, Sefolosha and Tucker are probably the closest matches off the top of my head.

I would be fine with johnson or tucker but both probably going to make in the 14-20 mil dollar range. What is fine with me. Thabo contact is probably going to be about 10 mil. So my question is the difference between rush and Thabo that great to pay an extra 5 mil for? (Legit question not trying to say he is or isn't)

[kekgeek]

Been enjoying reading this discussion. I have my own opinion on most of these guys, but I like the arguments made for Jamychal Green so far.

Still makes the most sense to me for him to be our number 1 target if Milsap is not an option

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Legit question isn't Thabo just another Brandon Rush. I see Thabo is barley getting run for the Hawks in the playoffs. I know he used to be an above average role player but is he still.

Not even close:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Thabo+Sefolosha&player_id1_select=Thabo+Sefolosha&y1=2017&player_id1=sefolth01&player_id2_hint=Brandon+Rush&player_id2_select=Brandon+Rush&y2=2017&player_id2=rushbr01

Now granted, it's amazing how vet players like Rush come to Minnesota and suddenly the bottom falls out and they put up career low numbers. Perhaps that happens with Thabo too. The difference is defense seems like something harder to "go cold" on than offense and that's why we'd get Thabo.

I actually liked Brandon Rush at first. He even made an occasional highlight reel chase-down block. But damn, it's amazing how little he did while on the floor.

[Lipoli390]

We're already talking ourselves into 3rd tier guys. It hurts. Why not Milsap or Ibaka? Either makes us a much better team with no financial impact beyond making Glen spend luxury tax which he has been saving since Cassel left.

Doper -- I think it's a matter of being realistic. We could offer Millsap a max contract, but we wouldn't be the only team, including his current team which has already established itself as a playoff team. The odds of Millsap leaving the Hawks AND coming to the Wolves seem remote. And I'm not sure Millsap is worth a max deal for the Wolves given what he brings and his age, although I do like his defense, rebounding and toughness. Ibaka seems less of a long-shot to sign here, but some of us have some misgivings about him given his steady statistical decline and bouncing through 3 teams in 3 seasons. Yes, he's playing well the last couple games, but that's not enough to erase the concerns. Moreover, even if Thibs thinks it's worth the risk to pursue him, it seems likely the Raptors would offer at least as much to keep him after having traded for him.

I'd be OK if we ended up signing either Millsap or Ibaka as a FA, even if it required a max contract. But I just don't see either one signing here. Hence, it's on to the next tier, or the tier below that, which leads to names like JJ Redick, Thabo Sefolosha, PJ Tucker, Tony Allen, Illyasova, Taj Gibson, Amir Johnson, Zaza Pachulia, Kyle Korver, Patrick Patterson, and Tyreke Evans

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Been enjoying reading this discussion. I have my own opinion on most of these guys, but I like the arguments made for Jamychal Green so far.

Almost a perfect fit. Blue collar guy not afraid to mix it up. Comes from the type of culture that is the exact opposite of what we have in Minnesota: Toughness, defense, and winning.