Offseason Targets

[Lipoli390]

I just see any realistic chance of getting any restricted free agent worth getting without grossly overpaying because their teams will match any reasonable offer we make. So I think the field is realistically limited to unrestricted FAs. I don't see any realistic chance of landing a Millsap or Iggy, etc. because those guys will likely sign with their current teams or contender. Millsap will likely command a max deal and I don't think that fits the Wolves long-term budget knowing that the Wolves will be giving max deals to Wiggins and KAT in addition to the significant deal they gave to Gorgui and the significant deal they'll likely give Zach.

So needle movers like Millsap aren't realistic in my view. I consider Redick the best FA we can add who is realistically available to us. He's not in the same needle-moving category as Millsap, but he'd still move the needle. While he won't come cheap, he's not a max contract guy like Millsap. I'm not sure what Ibaka would cost, but again, I'm concerned about his declining performance. There's something wrong there.

[BloopOracle]

Rubio Lavine Reddick Wuggins Towns death lineup

[worldK]

I actually think Otto Porter is a better fit for us than Paul George. Porter is only 23 so he could grow with our young core. The problem is even if we offer a max deal to Porter, Washington would match it. I would definitely consider working out a trade with them if Porter came to a deal with us so they didn't match.

What kind of a deal do you think we can workout with washington to get porter? I just dont see a deal that makes sense for both sides.

[TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]]

I just see any realistic chance of getting any restricted free agent worth getting without grossly overpaying because their teams will match any reasonable offer we make. So I think the field is realistically limited to unrestricted FAs. I don't see any realistic chance of landing a Millsap or Iggy, etc. because those guys will likely sign with their current teams or contender. Millsap will likely command a max deal and I don't think that fits the Wolves long-term budget knowing that the Wolves will be giving max deals to Wiggins and KAT in addition to the significant deal they gave to Gorgui and the significant deal they'll likely give Zach.

So needle movers like Millsap aren't realistic in my view. I consider Redick the best FA we can add who is realistically available to us. He's not in the same needle-moving category as Millsap, but he'd still move the needle. While he won't come cheap, he's not a max contract guy like Millsap. I'm not sure what Ibaka would cost, but again, I'm concerned about his declining performance. There's something wrong there.

I think our shooting isnt nearly as bad as our defense. As a team we shot three pointers at 34.9% (which is a little below average, but not terrible) and since we are a young team that average could improve significantly. We just take the fewest three point shots so Thibs need to figure out how to work more outside shooting into the offense. Zach, Wiggins and KAT all shoot better than 35% and are improving. Belly and Tyus can shoot from outside I'm not sure if we'll resign Casspi or Rush, but both are decent perimeter shooters. Ricky's shot is on the upswing and if you subtract all those last second desperation hoists he took as time was expiring he's probably near 35% on 3s. Dieng is showing more range and shot 38% beyond the arc.

I think we can be opportunistic in addressing both the needs for defense and scoring and there are a lot of good options available in free agency. Millsap, Ibaka and Otto Porter are all guys that would improve shooting and defense but I don't know if any of them are realistic targets. Thabo Sefolosha, James Johnson, PJ Tucker and Patterson can all shoot 3s and improve our defense and I like all of them. I hope we get at least one free agent who is an elite defender. Redick would be a good option if the cost is reasonable but there are plenty of other shooting options. Depending on how much we have to spend on a good shooter the options from most expensive to cheapest seem to be Gallinari, Redick, Tyreke Evans, Korver, Luke Babbitt, CJ Miles, Jerebko, Morrow, Nick Young and Dante Cunningham. I'd also think that if we wanted to resign Casspi or Rush, they could be had cheaply.

[Lipoli390]

I don't see any realistic trades that would bring a needle-moving player here without giving up assets that would negate most if not all the deal's value. But I'd be interested in any ideas.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

My revised list of Targets (I inadvertently left out James Johnson and added Anthony Morrow):

(1) Millsap (probably the only guy I'd max out, I'm not sure if I'd want to go hard after Ibaka given the rumors about him being older. Also Gay would have been an ideal target but his injury is scary and so I wouldnt go hard after him either)
(2) Amir Johnson (super underrated guy, would love to get him for a reasonable amount $12-14 million)
(3) James Johnson (love his defensive mindedness and how he does everything but score)($11-13 million is what the projections are and for that amount, I think he would be worth it).
(4) Sefolosha (I'd love to get him and given his age maybe $8 to $10 million would be enough)
(5) PJ Tucker (pretty much same comments as Sefolosha above)
(6) Taj Gibson (I worry that we might overpay for him, but if he'd come here for $12-14 million, he'd improve our D and add toughness)
(7) Tony Allen (He's pretty old so, I'd try to get him for $5-8 million and see if he bites).
(8) Patrick Patterson-Decent defender, who would be another option if the other defensive options aren't available
(9) Bogut (injury riddled and aging, but if he's healthy he's a defensive anchor and he might be worth a cheap deal $5-6 million, just for his mentorship).
(10) Anthony Morrow: Career 41%+ three point shooter and can play adequate defense. Might be the best bargain shooter out there. Hopefully $6-$7 million gets the job done
(11) Reddick-Good shooter, but I don't want to overpay for him. I have no idea what he'd command but if he'd take $8-$10 million, I'd be ok with him.
(11) Korver-Aging shooter, who I'd only want to get on a cheap deal under $8 million.
(12) Gallinari-He's the shooter I like the most, but I think he's going to want a huge payday (maybe max money). I just don't know if I want to pay that kind of money for someone who won't really move the needle for us much defensively if we can get a Morrow or Redick for cheap or resign Casspi and use our money to improve our defense.

If I thought we had a shot at Otto Porter by offering him a max deal, I'd do it. He's only 23 and is a proven two way guy.

Amir Johnson looks very good on paper, but the guy never plays more than 20-25 MPG and it's even less in the playoffs. He seems like the type of guy that starts halves and then sits when it really matters. Don't we already have a player like Amir in Gorgui Dieng?

I know Redick's name has been bandied about, but how does he fit with LaVine? I realize LaVine may not be back right away, but presumably he will be playing a bunch of 2. And really, Wiggins needs to be at the 2 also, but is big enough to slide to the 3 if LaVine comes off the bench.

I think the guys you have listed that can play the 3 or 4 are more realistic targets.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

He's a target because Chandler Parson has sucked the Grizzlies cap space dry and he fits the modern NBA as well as being one of the youngest quality free agents this year. I am torn between him and Milsap really they would both fit GREAT with Towns

I look at Green's stats and I am not that impressed. I would not offer him crazy money. If you want to offer crazy money, go after Otto Porter, he's much better than Green and thee years younger too. Also, Noel is better than Green.

Green is a blue collar guy that would bring some toughness and defense to our front line. He is a true power forward that can guard big and smaller guys alike. He also has been developing an outside shot and it appears to be getting better every year. Not sure I'd pay him ridiculous money, but he is a legitimate target in my mind.

[TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]]

I don't see any realistic trades that would bring a needle-moving player here without giving up assets that would negate most if not all the deal's value. But I'd be interested in any ideas.

Butler would probably cost us Lavine and our first and it would definitely improve us, but we would lose two young assets so I'm not sure I like it. If we could get Otto Porter without having to give up both LaVine and our first rounder, I would make that deal in a heartbeat. I don't know what it would take to pry Robert Covington away now, but we could have gotten him for Dunn a year ago, plus gotten additional assets.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

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Like it offensively. They'd get destroyed on defense and probably on the boards too.

Folks have mentioned Wiggins before in hypothetical small-ball 4 lineups. It just doesn't work. You need someone stronger than him.

[kekgeek]

He's a target because Chandler Parson has sucked the Grizzlies cap space dry and he fits the modern NBA as well as being one of the youngest quality free agents this year. I am torn between him and Milsap really they would both fit GREAT with Towns

I look at Green's stats and I am not that impressed. I would not offer him crazy money. If you want to offer crazy money, go after Otto Porter, he's much better than Green and thee years younger too. Also, Noel is better than Green.

Green is a blue collar guy that would bring some toughness and defense to our front line. He is a true power forward that can guard big and smaller guys alike. He also has been developing an outside shot and it appears to be getting better every year. Not sure I'd pay him ridiculous money, but he is a legitimate target in my mind.

I think green would be my number 1 target. I know we have to "overpay" get him but he fits everything we need and he dosen't need the ball to be successful and if the grizz match well they are in cap hell for years and their full potential is capped in a sense. I give him gorgui money maybe a bit more and see what happens

PJ Tucker would be my 2nd option.

Wilson chandler 3rd option