Bazz's last 10 games

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monsterpile wrote:I'm a guy that has some believe in Bazz and I am a fan however he has a lot of work to do to legitimately get most folks to believe he can be more than what he has been so far in his career. That's fair.

I'll say this though IF IF IF IF Bazz can hit 3 pointers relatively consistently especially if he can hit those elbow 3's....that would change a lot about how he would be perceived. Without a reliable 3 point shot AND not being able to handle the ball he would pretty much have to become a much better than average defender to be more than sort of a gadget player in this league off the bench. We will see. Hopefully the Wolves shooting coach is actually making some progress with him. Its not like he has a bad looking shot. I'm not holding my breath but its significant for him going forward no matter what team he plays on. Again he has to prove it and do it over a pretty significant chunk of games going forward to convince people to some extent it isn't some fluke. He also needs to keep playing solid defense he can't fall off there.


The three is huge for Bazz, I hope he keeps it up. Super small picture of what overall has been an up and down career. I have always seen him as a potential key contributor. I think Thibs is the kind of coach that won't tinker with lineups very much. Whereas Flip loved to tinker and we saw Bazz's best ball under Flip when he would attempt to create gross mismatches with Bazz's size. I think if Bazz keeps this trajectory up Thibs will have to keep trusting him with minutes. Good on him for making efforts in his areas of weakness so far.
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Make that 11. Free Bazz.
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I like what I'm seeing. Maybe he's Thibs' next Jimmy Butler. :)
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He really sprints out there on the break. I hope this streak is the start of consistent contribution.
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Bazz up to 40% on 3's.
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I was just checking out his box scores. His most impressive stat, as Q mentioned, is an inability to get an assist. 4 assists in last 15 games played? Don't you accidentally fumble the ball away and get more incidental assists? Crazy. Man, statistically, between assists, steals and blocks, you wouldn't even know he is on the court.

I actually like the guy OK, but he is the Webster definition of 1 trick pony. My opinion, for him to stick, he needs to hit >40% 3's and increase his volume by 2x. Otherwise, he is easily replaceable.
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I agree with you Hick with your assessment of Bazz's game. Like you said, the 3 pt shot needs to continue for him to have value. He's really spitting up well and guys are finding him, much like Rush. This ball movement and passing wasn't happening to start the year. I think that was contributing to Rush's slow start. Teammates weren't creating and finding him for open looks.
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Right, if you are going to be a one-trick pony (scoring in this case), then do it well and do it efficiently. The 3-ball for Bazz has been a huge development. If that isn't falling, then all of his tunnel-visioned forays to the hoop, wild charges into people, and inability to be very good at anything else makes him very mediocre.

He has improved defensively, but it's hard to gauge by how much when he's a pure bench player going up against other second tier guys.
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Q12543 wrote:Right, if you are going to be a one-trick pony (scoring in this case), then do it well and do it efficiently. The 3-ball for Bazz has been a huge development. If that isn't falling, then all of his tunnel-visioned forays to the hoop, wild charges into people, and inability to be very good at anything else makes him very mediocre.

He has improved defensively, but it's hard to gauge by how much when he's a pure bench player going up against other second tier guys.


Early on in the season he was playing basically all his minutes against bench players. Once Lavine started playing with the bench a lot more Bazz has likely been playing some minutes against a starter. Regardless he is not being matched up against a top level offensive player. When do we give him his due though doing his job on that end? How often have we seen some random dude have a huge game against the wolves espcially from 3. I haven't seen that happen much when Bazz is on the floor guarding his player. It would be interesting to see if there was some charting of the levels of player not only starter vs bench but how good of offensive players they are.

Sure Bazz doesn't get assists but the key for a player like him is making good decisions which I think he has improved even starting later in the season last year. If he can't score he should be passing it up. If you were coaching would you find ways to put Bazz is situations to get assists? No. He doesn't have that in his game. Bazz's opportunities for assists probably revolve around his post ups if he gets double teamed or maybe after getting an offensive rebound throwing it out to someone. Bazz touches the ball 13.3 half court times a game per NBA.com. The only guys that touch the ball less on the team are Aldrich, Rush and other guys deeper on the bench. That's not a lot of chances for an assist. Generally when Bazz gets the ball in the offense he has a couple options.

Shoot or look to score
Swing the ball to someone else

Bazz isn't put in a position to create for others because...duh that's not his game.

What I have seen more this year from Bazz is him passing the ballmore when he gets his hands on it and doesn't have an obvious advantage. He still takes some shots and stuff that are tunnel vision types but just watching him there are times every game he passes the ball that he wouldn't have in the past. It's obviously a weakness of his game no matter how you slice it but is 2 more assists a game that big of a deal? I think it's other stuff is a bigger deal if he is moving the ball a reasonable amount of the time. Every offensive player on this roster tends to take a couple bad scoring opportunities. Bazz can keep cutting down on those espcially if his teammates and the offense works more in his favor which has been part of te reason he has been getting going lately.

To me Bazz this season has done some of things people have been asking for him to do for years and he has basically barely gotten any credit till recently when people have started to give him credit for inproving defensively. He hasn't improved much when it comes to his offensive skill set which is disappointing. It's weird he hasn't improved much as a ball handler. His shooting...may have improved but that was something that had some decent potential all along. His defensive improvement has been pretty significant and quite frankly I'd take that over him becoming a better ball handler anyway. Knock on woood his injury issues seem to be behind him and that was a legit concern but it's looking less of a problem as he has been mostly healthy.

Edit: And then I see he went 0-6 in a loss... lol
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