Rubio has been traded to the Jazz for OKC's 2018 pick

[Jester1534]

At the end of day if Kat and Wiggins don't take the next step none of this matters anyway. Why can't we just enjoy this off season. Have fun with it and just enjoy the next two years.

[TheFuture]

[AbeVigodaLive]

Under your previous "organic" growth plan... you were banking on progressive growth from Wiggins and KAT.

So let's say that happens and Teague and Butler bolt. Ok.

Wouldn't the Wolves still have two of the league's better (best) players entering their prime? Doesn't sound like the worst scenario to me. At least half the league would be happy to have that problem.

[Monster]

So...Thibs and Layden are selling out for a just playoff team for the next couple years? Eh maybe.

Have they done some other things to look toward the future?

Drafted a David Patton a high upside kid they clearly liked quite a bit.

Traded Rubio and got a first round pick that will likely he coming next year when they don't have one from the Payne trade.

The youngest PG on the roster Tyus is still here. Remember when he was getting moved because Lucas was the 3rd PG? Awesome stuff.

The Wolves currently have zero players on their roster over 30 or older. That is likely to change as they add some vets but unless they really go in on a guy like Millsap they won't be huge parts of the team.

Thibs demanded a G-league team.

They haven't let Bazz go yet.

They could sign some young FAs like a Ben Mclemore and develop them into something worthwhile.

So it's possible that this will still be a young team that is being developed all while possibly being a legit contender. They haven't just dumped every other young asset to get older more experienced players. Every time they have let a worthwhile player that's young go they have gotten something for them. At this point I wouldn't be shocked if they moved Dieng and got something back. Lol

I would have loved to see all the guys grow together but what they have done is actually pretty impressive to me and they aren't done. They are doing this the way the good teams do. Oh man what alternate dimension are we in? I haven't been thisbnervouaband excited in a good way about the offseason and FA ever.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

lol

[TheFuture]

Under your previous "organic" growth plan... you were banking on progressive growth from Wiggins and KAT.

So let's say that happens and Teague and Butler bolt. Ok.

Wouldn't the Wolves still have two of the league's better (best) players entering their prime? Doesn't sound like the worst scenario to me. At least half the league would be happy to have that problem.

It is great, except you're talking about two players seeing playoffs, unable to get over the hump, and looking to jettison when the other core players take off as we have no young talent brewing, no cap room, and we are not some destination like GSW or Cavs for the time being for top ring chasers.

[BloopOracle]

So...Thibs and Layden are selling out for a just playoff team for the next couple years? Eh maybe.

Have they done some other things to look toward the future?

Drafted a David Patton a high upside kid they clearly liked quite a bit.

Traded Rubio and got a first round pick that will likely he coming next year when they don't have one from the Payne trade.

The youngest PG on the roster Tyus is still here. Remember when he was getting moved because Lucas was the 3rd PG? Awesome stuff.

The Wolves currently have zero players on their roster over 30 or older. That is likely to change as they add some vets but unless they really go in on a guy like Millsap they won't be huge parts of the team.

Thibs demanded a G-league team.

They haven't let Bazz go yet.

They could sign some young FAs like a Ben Mclemore and develop them into something worthwhile.

So it's possible that this will still be a young team that is being developed all while possibly being a legit contender. They haven't just dumped every other young asset to get older more experienced players. Every time they have let a worthwhile player that's young go they have gotten something for them. At this point I wouldn't be shocked if they moved Dieng and got something back. Lol

I would have loved to see all the guys grow together but what they have done is actually pretty impressive to me and they aren't done. They are doing this the way the good teams do. Oh man what alternate dimension are we in? I haven't been thisbnervouaband excited in a good way about the offseason and FA ever.

Pretty crazy that we went from being the Cleveland Browns of the NBA to fighting amongst ourselves over which premiere free agents we should sign in only 2 years lol

[TheFuture]

Do you see the other moves these teams in the West are making? The playoffs weren't happening next year just by running it back with a draft pick and a new pool of bench vets. Who knows how long it takes to make the playoffs without Butler and then that's flirting with Towns, Wiggins and Lavine demanding out. Acting like growing organically means contention automatically is putting the cart way before the horse. It's a nice concept. The performance of the team this past year should have seriously put some doubt in people's minds that continuing down the same path was guaranteed for success especially at a championship level. The development just wasn't there to be comfortable running it back. The odds of needing to start rebuilding yet again were just as high as ever becoming a contender.

Except for controlling all of them for another 4-6 years.. plus definite improvements, more picks, higher cap space, etc. etc. not too mention The current league studs being past prime..

So if we do hypotheticals - what happens if we falter in 2 years (which we will, hell it took LeBron, Wade, and Bosh two seasons to win AGAiNST the old Spurs), and Butler leaves and Teague opts out, then we are left barren. I'd bet KAT and Wiggins are much more prone to jet/become disgruntled at that point..

[TheFuture]

For the record, I would have sat with Rubio, Dunn, LaVine, Wiggins, KAT, Dieng, Bjelicia, #7, used our 20 mil cap on the bench, matched shabazz at anything under 7 mil, and fought for a 6-8 seed. We will see what happens.

[Monster]

Under your previous "organic" growth plan... you were banking on progressive growth from Wiggins and KAT.

So let's say that happens and Teague and Butler bolt. Ok.

Wouldn't the Wolves still have two of the league's better (best) players entering their prime? Doesn't sound like the worst scenario to me. At least half the league would be happy to have that problem.

It is great, except you're talking about two players seeing playoffs, unable to get over the hump, and looking to jettison when the other core players take off as we have no young talent brewing, no cap room, and we are not some destination like GSW or Cavs for the time being for top ring chasers.

No young talent brewing? So there was a flip that switched and now we are incapable of that happening or something?

Tyus
Patton
Young FA's we could sign
G-league
Undrafted guys or an international dude.

Why can't we do that while being a really good team? Other other good teams do it why can't we?

Oh the Cavs and GS were so sexy like 2-4 years ago...not really it wasn't that long ago those teams were basketball wastelands.