Carlos Danger wrote:It's fair question (and good points) brought up about pace of play. But at this point, but you sort of have to trust in Thibbs and assuming he'll figure out how to get the most out of what we have until he can configure the team to his liking. Even though I really like our starting five that finished last year, I'm assuming there will be changes. If he thinks we have to change the style of play to reduce turnovers/improve defense and win more games - then so be it. That's why they hired him. Maybe that means he'll replace some pieces that we assume are fixtures - who knows? I'm anticipating some free agent signing of "Thibbs guys" this off season. And it wouldn't shock me if there were a trade or two completed at next year's deadline. This guy is results driven and I don't think he's going to sit back and hope guys eventually get it. I think he's going to move guys who don't fit in or who won't buy into what he's coaching. There's a new sheriff in town.
Right, but the question is will it win us more games? In other words, do we give up more in offensive efficiency than what is gained in defensive efficiency by slowing the pace and focusing more on a conservative style of play?
He is very fixed on his 5 principles of success: Defense, Rebounding, keeping turnovers down, playing inside-out, and sharing the ball.
I would say defense and sharing the ball are probably common themes that run throughout the history of NBA champions. But not all champions have been great rebounding teams or elite at keeping turnovers down.
So on the one hand he talks about playing to the roster's strengths, while at the same time having a fixed formula for success. How does he reconcile the two?
I hope someone please lets me know when an NBA coach makes a case for those 5 things not being important! Thibs has mastered the art of talking in platitudes and revealing nothing when he talks. Barreiro's ego requires that his guests actually say something in their segments on his show (Saunders, Zimmer, Tarkenton, etc.), so I wouldn't be surprised if he decides not to have a weekly segment with him. I wouldn't be disappointed. I'm guardedly optimistic about Thibs as our new coach...you can't argue with the defensive and overall success he has had. But my eyes glaze over when he begins talking, and I've have a hard time focusing on what he is saying. If he wins, I will have no problems with him continuing to give evasive interviews.
Isn't Thibodeau a fan of Belichek?
Yep, huge admirer...and a Patriots fan. We have no evidence that he endorses cheating though, and he seems to have a much more pleasant personality than Belichek.
My biggest concern is this: Thibs continues to repeat the mantra of the importance of defense, rebounding, limiting turnovers and sharing the ball. I'm concerned about him going public with these insights, because they are quite cutting edge. Should we be concerned that other coaches are going to hear him talking about the importance of these things, and begin to focus on them too? I'm worried about us losing our competitive advantage here :) .
Carlos Danger wrote:It's fair question (and good points) brought up about pace of play. But at this point, but you sort of have to trust in Thibbs and assuming he'll figure out how to get the most out of what we have until he can configure the team to his liking. Even though I really like our starting five that finished last year, I'm assuming there will be changes. If he thinks we have to change the style of play to reduce turnovers/improve defense and win more games - then so be it. That's why they hired him. Maybe that means he'll replace some pieces that we assume are fixtures - who knows? I'm anticipating some free agent signing of "Thibbs guys" this off season. And it wouldn't shock me if there were a trade or two completed at next year's deadline. This guy is results driven and I don't think he's going to sit back and hope guys eventually get it. I think he's going to move guys who don't fit in or who won't buy into what he's coaching. There's a new sheriff in town.
Right, but the question is will it win us more games? In other words, do we give up more in offensive efficiency than what is gained in defensive efficiency by slowing the pace and focusing more on a conservative style of play?
He is very fixed on his 5 principles of success: Defense, Rebounding, keeping turnovers down, playing inside-out, and sharing the ball.
I would say defense and sharing the ball are probably common themes that run throughout the history of NBA champions. But not all champions have been great rebounding teams or elite at keeping turnovers down.
So on the one hand he talks about playing to the roster's strengths, while at the same time having a fixed formula for success. How does he reconcile the two?
I hope someone please lets me know when an NBA coach makes a case for those 5 things not being important! Thibs has mastered the art of talking in platitudes and revealing nothing when he talks. Barreiro's ego requires that his guests actually say something in their segments on his show (Saunders, Zimmer, Tarkenton, etc.), so I wouldn't be surprised if he decides not to have a weekly segment with him. I wouldn't be disappointed. I'm guardedly optimistic about Thibs as our new coach...you can't argue with the defensive and overall success he has had. But my eyes glaze over when he begins talking, and I've have a hard time focusing on what he is saying. If he wins, I will have no problems with him continuing to give evasive interviews.
Isn't Thibodeau a fan of Belichek?
Yep, huge admirer...and a Patriots fan. We have no evidence that he endorses cheating though, and he seems to have a much more pleasant personality than Belichek.
My biggest concern is this: Thibs continues to repeat the mantra of the importance of defense, rebounding, limiting turnovers and sharing the ball. I'm concerned about him going public with these insights, because they are quite cutting edge. Should we be concerned that other coaches are going to hear him talking about the importance of these things, and begin to focus on them too? I'm worried about us losing our competitive advantage here :) .
That was one thing I dug about Flip. He was one of the few guys you could actually learn stuff from... even when he was trying to be evasive.
longstrangetrip wrote:
My biggest concern is this: Thibs continues to repeat the mantra of the importance of defense, rebounding, limiting turnovers and sharing the ball. I'm concerned about him going public with these insights, because they are quite cutting edge. Should we be concerned that other coaches are going to hear him talking about the importance of these things, and begin to focus on them too? I'm worried about us losing our competitive advantage here :) .
