TheFuture wrote:Anyone else notice the way Wiggins and LaVine both reacted on the separate passes where Payne either didn't roll correctly off the pick or wasn't looking for the ball?
Maybe everyone is getting a bit annoyed with his lack of bball IQ.
Camden0916 wrote:I would explore trades this off-season. Doesn't mean I'd dump him for anything.
Totally agree. He has value so there is no need to get diminished return. I think a deal of Martin for Taj Gibson and whatever moving parts need to go either way would be pretty fair for both sides. They have great PF depth. We have a ton of PFs, but no good ones.
This team is so pathetic, haha, the Lakers literally might be a team filled of 12-15th players while the wolves at least have 2 quality starters on this team
Camden0916 wrote:I would explore trades this off-season. Doesn't mean I'd dump him for anything.
Totally agree. He has value so there is no need to get diminished return. I think a deal of Martin for Taj Gibson and whatever moving parts need to go either way would be pretty fair for both sides. They have great PF depth. We have a ton of PFs, but no good ones.
I can't see the Bulls trading Taj straight up for Martin. But add a future first round pick and the Bulls might pull the trigger. That's how you use a future first. You don't risk a future pick on some like Payne. Payne was a mid first round pick. But like nearly all first round picks, his value dropped immediately after the season started. First round picks are like cars. Their worth substantially the moment you drive them off the lot. Payne's value drop Must have been particularly big based on the fact that the Hawks found Payne worthy of almost no playing time behind no less than 4 other PFs.
The Payne deal was especially bad given that we already owed a future first rounder from Kahn's desperate deal to get rid of Wes Johnson and clear space for Batum and Roy. Alas, we don't have the draft assets to pull off a trade for someone like Taj.