Carlos Danger wrote:AbeVigodaLive wrote:monsterpile wrote:I haven't voted yet but I keep hearing people say let's sign a Turiaf type guy that stays healthy. That's basically Jeff Adrian. Yep he is a couple inches shorter and not as talented but he can give you something in his minutes and like Jim Peterson says he is hard to play against. I'm not saying he should be on the roster but the guy can play basketball and do stuff when he is out there. There is a reason he keeps showing up on NBA rosters and or is the last cut in TC.
The rub is that there are also reasons why he doesn't stick around for long. He's limited. Basically, he's kind of like a bigger Lo Brown. He's serviceable. And there's a place for that... if a team wants that instead of more promise.
Meh. Give me Gary Trent instead. Or Craig Smith. But I would maybe take him over Andrew Lang.
I agree with this take. I realize we all want a hard nosed defender to plug the middle. But why can't we find one of those in the upcoming draft? Jeff Adrien did just fine while he was here. But he's basically an older, limited, emergency stop gap player vs. someone who might get better and be part of the young core.
Well, let me try going the numbers route as opposed to the emotive "he's a hard-nosed tough guy" route (which I think we all agree is true). I'm determined to turn you and Abe around!
Jeff Adrien this year:
PER - 14.2
WS/48 - .089
Net On/Off per 100 possessions - +5 pts
Rebounds per 36 minutes - 13 (!)
Opponent team eFG% when on the floor - 49.6% (vs. 53.6% for the team on the season)
That's a solid 4th or 5th big on a good team.
And this isn't just Adrien catching a break from the gods of small sample size. Go look at last season's numbers as well with Milwaukee and Charlotte. It's more of the same.
I love value guys - low cost, smart players that stay in their lane and are willing to do the dirty work. He absolutely fits the bill and simply flies under the radar of most teams because he's short. The numbers suggest that you get a positive ROI from his roster spot and salary.