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longstrangetrip wrote:Good choice to eschew the 2+1 tonight, q. I'm resisting the urge to knee jerk react about Tyus, Zach, Gorgui, Wig, etc, etc, etc

Sam's post-game was interesting though. He talked about the frustration of coaching a bunch of guys who haven't learned anything in AAU ball except how to dunk. He went into great detail about how remedial their practices are, and how the young guys still aren't comfortable with things that used to be second nature to rookies in the old days after finishing four years of college. I sense that it is even more difficult to get things across to guys like Zach, Wig and Bazz who have managed to dominate their whole lives by just being more athletic than their competition. The things he said they go over again and again in practice are the same things Jim Peterson says he watches being taught when he goes to practice. Coaches with veteran teams can work on intricate offensive plays in practice...Sam needs to spend his time teaching his guys things like how to get in a proper defensive stance, because they have never learned it. And it clearly still isn't sinking in.

But blaming Sam for the team's immaturity is like blaming the cowboy who just led his horse to the river because the horse won't take a drink. We gotta keep being patient with these guys, because even on bad nights like tonight I see some new things. Tonight I saw Wig drive the lane and kick the ball into the corner to Ricky for a wide-open three. And I know I'm seeing players setting up outside the arc more frequently than they were even ten games ago. The ball handler isn't always finding them, and when he does, the shot isn't going in frequently enough...but there's some progress nonetheless. Some young guys like KAT with high basketball IQ's get things more quickly, but others like Zach, Wig and Bazz with low IQ's take longer. And some like Gorgui may never get it, and we have to accept him for what he is. But after listening to Jim Peterson today and Sam tonight, I'm confident that the right practices are being taught...they just aren't sinking in as fast as I would like.

I'm resolving to stay patient. And I'm feeling grateful that the Philly game isn't going to be televised!

LST, tonight is not a good time to unequivocally back Sam and his practices. If that clown can't at least take some of the blame for what we saw tonight, he's a bigger idiot than I think he is. Can't get in a defensive stance? You don't think Bill Self has a grasp of fundamentals? The lack of improvement in our young guys? Maybe if it was just one or two guys you could look past the coaching, but not when it's universal like we're seeing. There is absolutely no reason this team shouldn't be showing consistent improvement as this season goes on. It sure looks like they've regressed to me. I don't have any time for an arrogant coach who isn't succeeding in his own arena.
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Cool - You are absolutely right!! It's failure to improve. Even worse, they're regressing. And as you pointed out, it's everyone, not just a player or two. That's on the head coach. At the very least, a real leader takes responsibility at least partially when things don't go well. So let me get this straight: When our young players get in a game they're all ignoring what Sam teaches in practice and reverting to AAU ball??! Really???! Oh, and Towns is ignoring or forgetting what he learned from Calipari while Wiggins ignores or forgets what he learned from Bill Self? Come on Sam, cut the crap!!

I see players losing confidence and playing without purpose. I see players passing up open shots from behind the arc in order to take a few steps in and shoot more highly contested long twos double-clutching and out of rhythm. I see poor offensive spacing every game and repeatedly see offensive sets with no one spotting up for corner threes. And the few times the offensive set has someone spotting up in position for a corner three, it's usually Prince or Ricky -- the last two guys who should be spotting up for those shots. And of course Prince often takes two dribbles inside the arc before shooting anyway. Is this players reverting to AAU-style basketball?? And if players really are reverting to AAU-style play, is that really all on the players? Let me offer a more credible explanation. If they're really reverting to AAU-style, perhaps they are simply trying to generate offense in a poorly designed, antiquated offensive system. Of all the criticisms many of us have directed at our young guys, whether it's Towns, Wiggins, Zach or Dieng, no one has or could credibly suggest they're playground types or not coachable.

Sam is a poor coach. I'll state that here and stand by it going forward. In addition to all the above, I see Sam repeatedly pull guys just as they're getting into a scoring rhythm. I see him call timeouts when the team is on a roll while waiting way too long to call timeouts when the team is in a tailspin. I've heard him say some dumb self-contradictory things. As I've said before, I'll admit we could probably do worse - i.e., Kurt Rambis. But that's no excuse for not doing better.

And that's my rant for the night.
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Lip, are you hearing of any possible replacements for Sam? Still holding out hope Glen decides to go in another direction.
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Timberpups wrote:Lip, are you hearing of any possible replacements for Sam? Still holding out hope Glen decides to go in another direction.


Nothing yet. All I know is that Flip never considered hiring Sam as his replacement.
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Timberpups wrote:Lip, are you hearing of any possible replacements for Sam? Still holding out hope Glen decides to go in another direction.



The good news is that there might be a bounty of well-regarded NBA coaches on the market this summer.

The bad news is that Glen Taylor seems like he'll be the guy choosing the next Wolves coach.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Timberpups wrote:Lip, are you hearing of any possible replacements for Sam? Still holding out hope Glen decides to go in another direction.



The good news is that there might be a bounty of well-regarded NBA coaches on the market this summer.

The bad news is that Glen Taylor seems like he'll be the guy choosing the next Wolves coach.


Well said, Abe!
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Timberpups wrote:The good news is that there might be a bounty of well-regarded NBA coaches on the market this summer.

The bad news is that Glen Taylor seems like he'll be the guy choosing the next Wolves coach.


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