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I take Drummond if they modify the intentional foul rules otherwise he can keep the other team in games when they choose to use that strategy. The guy is averaging 13 and 13 at 21 years old and would have 3 years under his belt when we would get him. I would rather have that over a rookie. We'd be able to go for a playoff spot as early as next year whereas Okafor or Towns still keep us a year or 2 away if they don't come out as decent contributors right away. I do think Drummond has star quality if he can get back up to his 60% FG percentage and increase his defensive presence. I think he would be another guy KG could greatly help with his basketball IQ on defense. He is big and athletic and would have no problem with the size the West sports in the frontcourt. High percentage shots, high rebound percentage, extremely athletic, very big and could learn to protect the rim better under KG's wing. That's the makings of a force to be reckoned with and he has Rubio getting him the ball in the PnR. DJ has become a max player this year and his stats are very comparable to Drummond's.
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13 & 13 is nothing to scoff at, so don't take me wrong, but I want the potential franchise player instead. I feel like a team is going to be able to build around both Towns and Okafor and be contenders. Can you build a contender around Drummond? I don't think so, no.

And you could retort: "We're building around Wiggins. We don't need to build around Drummond." Well, a big as skilled as either one of those two 19-year olds is going to open up a ton of options for Wiggins.

Cauley-Stein is in the same mold as Drummond, if you add 30 pounds. That supposed defensive anchor, athletic specimen, shot-blocker. And I like WCS, as well as Drummond, but I'm not building a team around him.

It's the first overall pick for crying out loud.
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Camden wrote:13 & 13 is nothing to scoff at, so don't take me wrong, but I want the potential franchise player instead. I feel like a team is going to be able to build around both Towns and Okafor and be contenders. Can you build a contender around Drummond? I don't think so, no.

And you could retort: "We're building around Wiggins. We don't need to build around Drummond." Well, a big as skilled as either one of those two 19-year olds is going to open up a ton of options for Wiggins.

Cauley-Stein is in the same mold as Drummond, if you add 30 pounds. That supposed defensive anchor, athletic specimen, shot-blocker. And I like WCS, as well as Drummond, but I'm not building a team around him.

It's the first overall pick for crying out loud.


You act like Drummond's potential is capped at this point in his career. The guy is 21. He's only 2 years older than Wiggins and Lavine and we don't have to wait on him to develop like Towns or Okafor and he still has a ton of room to grow. I think you way overvalue how good Towns will be offensively and Drummond has an even more unique combination of size and athleticism than Towns. Drummond is considered to be a franchise player by a lot of teams. I think Drummond can be a great high efficiency, low volume guy who can carry you on the boards and potentially defensively which has a huge impact on the game. DJ is 5 years older than Drummond so think of how much Drummond can grow in those 5 years with 2 of them under KG's wing. Dwight carried a team to the finals with a limited offensive arsenal and poor free throw shooting. Drummond has the potential to be that big of a hassle to contain for other teams.
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Okay. So let's bookmark this one and come back in what, three years is typically your waiting period? Drummond vs Towns & Okafor. Add that to the list of many things we disagree on.
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I just don't get how you can call two 19 year olds pretty much guaranteed franchise players, but a 21 year old putting up 13 and 13 in this league for 2/3 years can't be a franchise guy. The difference between him and early Dwight is literally 1 RPG, <1 BPG and Dwight's bigger PPG is largely due to the 6+ extra foul shots he took per game. It doesn't seem to be that big of a gap from what another guy who was considered a franchise guy put up early in his career. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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A 21 years old true Center who is putting up significant numbers is a rarity. The development time frame alone for NBA level centers always takes time...and at 21...he is way above the grade!
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slimcalhoun27 wrote:A 21 years old true Center who is putting up significant numbers is a rarity. The development time frame alone for NBA level centers always takes time...and at 21...he is way above the grade!


I'm not arguing that, though. I realize Drummond's ahead of the curve, and he's a nice center, but I believe both Towns and Okafor are going to be much better players. That's really what my stance is.
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If drummond was still in college he could be the top pick. Most likely a freshman would be picked tho if a team like the 76ers were picking
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Brandon BassHole wrote:If drummond was still in college he could be the top pick. Most likely a freshman would be picked tho if a team like the 76ers were picking


I'd still rank the group Towns > Okafor > Drummond. Drummond's a very impressive 21-year old, but let's not overlook what ceilings the other two bigs have.
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Camden0916 wrote:
Brandon BassHole wrote:If drummond was still in college he could be the top pick. Most likely a freshman would be picked tho if a team like the 76ers were picking


I'd still rank the group Towns > Okafor > Drummond. Drummond's a very impressive 21-year old, but let's not overlook what ceilings the other two bigs have.

Let's not overlook Drummond's ceiling too. He isn't done improving. He also has a floor much higher than both. I would take the 21 year old big doing it in the pros at a nice level over Okafor who doesn't play great defense and Towns who has been a part time college player.
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