Wolves' 2nd round pick official thread

[bleedspeed]

Guillermo Hernangomez is my man for eurostash. I could see him pairing up good with Towns in the future if we wanted to go big.

Center 6'-11"
255 lbs
Age 20
Reach 9'-1"

Positives
-Big, physical
-Likes to play in the paint
-Good rebounder
-Showings signs of a face-the-basket game

Negatives
-Not an elite athlete
-Playing against weak competition in Spain

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

I like PG Joseph Young, but rumors are Lakers are rumored to want him at 27, but they are also looking to get rid of the pick all together.

Great scorer and shooter, but not what I think we need backing up Rubio. I agree with Q that we need a distributor/defender on our second unit, and Young is neither of these. I see him as more of a poor man's Mo Williams. I would prefer someone who understands his job is to defend and get the ball to Martin and Shabazz (and anyone else who emerges as a scorer off the bench).

I think we should have the opposite of Rubio on the bench. He seems to be enough of an athlete to be coached up on defense. I think he would distribute enough to work.

I don't know, bleed...he had four years in college to show he could pass or defend, and he didn't do either...3.2 assists per 40 minutes is not my idea of a PG. He's really a scoring combo guard more than a pure PG. With scorers like Martin and Shabazz on the second unit, I want my PG getting them the ball, not jacking up shots. Flip has tried having the opposite of Rubio on the bench with Williams and Barea, and most of us weren't very pleased with the results.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

Although Trent Tucker mentioned that 14 spots is more likely, because teams like to have that 15th spot open if needed down the road...

Yeah, I heard him say that. But they have to have 15 paid roster spots before the season starts, so I think TT was just saying Flip might want to keep that 15th spot open until October to see what he needs to target in free agency.

[bleedspeed]

LST - I think it is what you are asked to do in college to a degree. I like the idea of someone that can get in the lane and finish, but also can shooter. 3.8 apg last year with 4.4 boards and 1.1 steals. Not just a scorer in my eyes. Add in the 92% from the line. i think he will translate. I don't think Mo or JJ could finish in the paint.

Positives
-Explosive scorer
-Very quick with the ball
-Can take just about anyone off the bounce
-Solid finisher at the rim for someone his size
-Good shooter off the bounce with deep range
-Improving floor vision

Negatives
-Is undersized for his position
-Needs to add strength

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

Guillermo Hernangomez is my man for eurostash. I could see him pairing up good with Towns in the future if we wanted to go big.

Center 6'-11"
255 lbs
Age 20
Reach 9'-1"

Positives
-Big, physical
-Likes to play in the paint
-Good rebounder
-Showings signs of a face-the-basket game

Negatives
-Not an elite athlete
-Playing against weak competition in Spain

Good choice, bleedspeed. Good rebounder, and 72% free throw rate shows he has some promise as a shooter.

[BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]]

Not sure if somebody answered this in a previous post, but do we still have Gary Neal under contract?

Nope...he's an unrestricted free agent.

Here's the Wolves' current financial situation. Brown's deal is not guaranteed, so assuming we sign KG, I see 11 guaranteed contracts. So, room for Towns, Bjelica, one of our second picks, and a free agent.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/minnesota-timberwolves-team-salary/

Thanks LST. I think it's unlikely Bjelica comes over but good to know we have some room

[60WinTim]

Although Trent Tucker mentioned that 14 spots is more likely, because teams like to have that 15th spot open if needed down the road...

Yeah, I heard him say that. But they have to have 15 paid roster spots before the season starts, so I think TT was just saying Flip might want to keep that 15th spot open until October to see what he needs to target in free agency.

I know there is a minimum salary requirement, and while there might be a minimum # of roster spots, I did not think it was 15. Or is that something new?

[Monster]

I like PG Joseph Young, but rumors are Lakers are rumored to want him at 27, but they are also looking to get rid of the pick all together.

Great scorer and shooter, but not what I think we need backing up Rubio. I agree with Q that we need a distributor/defender on our second unit, and Young is neither of these. I see him as more of a poor man's Mo Williams. I would prefer someone who understands his job is to defend and get the ball to Martin and Shabazz (and anyone else who emerges as a scorer off the bench).

I think we should have the opposite of Rubio on the bench. He seems to be enough of an athlete to be coached up on defense. I think he would distribute enough to work.

I don't know, bleed...he had four years in college to show he could pass or defend, and he didn't do either...3.2 assists per 40 minutes is not my idea of a PG. He's really a scoring combo guard more than a pure PG. With scorers like Martin and Shabazz on the second unit, I want my PG getting them the ball, not jacking up shots. Flip has tried having the opposite of Rubio on the bench with Williams and Barea, and most of us weren't very pleased with the results.

I was thinking about how Bjelica would fit well with a guy like Bazz off the bench Flip called Bjelica a playmaker Saturday. Could his playmaking abilities make a scoring PG make sense? Personally I just want a PG that can play I am not locked into one type of guy or another.

[Monster]

Although Trent Tucker mentioned that 14 spots is more likely, because teams like to have that 15th spot open if needed down the road...

Yeah, I heard him say that. But they have to have 15 paid roster spots before the season starts, so I think TT was just saying Flip might want to keep that 15th spot open until October to see what he needs to target in free agency.

I know there is a minimum salary requirement, and while there might be a minimum # of roster spots, I did not think it was 15. Or is that something new?

The short story is it looks like you can have as few at 13 healthy players with no restrictions.

"79. What roster size limits exist? What is the Inactive List? What is Injured Reserve? Do any other such lists exist?

Normally an NBA team can have a maximum of 15 players on its roster during a season (and up to 20 during the offseason). A team normally has 12 or 13 players on its Active List, who are eligible to play in games, and can have as few as 11 for up to two weeks at a time. Any remaining players must be on the team's Inactive List, and are ineligible to play in games. Teams temporarily can have four players on their Inactive List (bringing their roster size to 16) with league approval in the event of a hardship1. Teams must suit-up at least eight players for every game. The following table summarizes the allowable compositions of team Active and Inactive Lists:

Total Players Active Inactive Notes
16 12 4 With league approval in the event of a hardship
15 13 2
15 12 3
14 13 1
14 12 2
14 11 3 Two week limit
13 13 0
13 12 1
13 11 2 Two week limit
12 12 0 Two week limit
12 11 1 Two week limit
11 11 0 Two week limit
The composition of the Inactive List can change on a game-by-game basis -- no less than 60 minutes prior to tipoff, the team must present to the official scorer a list of the players who will be active for that game. A player can be inactive for as little as one game. While individual teams are only required to carry a minimum of 13 players, (12 active and one inactive), the NBA also guarantees a league-wide average of at least 14 players per team. The league is surcharged if it does not meet this obligation.

In addition to the Active and Inactive Lists, the following lists exist:

Suspended List: Any player who is suspended by his team for four or more games may be transferred to the team's Suspended List following the third game of his suspension (and may be placed on the team's Active List or Inactive List for the first three game). Any player who is suspended by the league for six or more games may be transferred to the team's Suspended List following the fifth game of his suspension (and must remain on the team's Active List for the first five games).
NBA Draft List: The NBA Draft List contains the players with whom the team holds exclusive negotiating rights.
Voluntarily Retired List: A player who wishes to retire while under contract may be placed on his team's Voluntarily Retired List if both the team and player agree. Such players cannot return to active status for one year without the unanimous consent of the NBA Board of Governors (see question number 63), and cannot be traded. By utilizing the Voluntarily Retired List rather than agreeing to a buyout (see question number 67), the team is left with some ongoing rights -- for example, the player is not able to sign with another team.
Armed Services List: Used for players who are on active duty in their country's armed services.
Injured Reserve is the former name of the Inactive List. It was originally intended for players who were injured and unable to play, however teams often used it as a convenient place to stash extra players. While a medical reason was required for players to be put on Injured Reserve, the league did not insist on an independent physician confirming the diagnosis. Thus it was common for a seemingly healthy player to suddenly develop "back spasms" right before rosters were cut to 12 players, and spend the entire season on Injured Reserve as a result. With the 1995 CBA they gave up the ghost, dropped the medical requirement, and changed the designation to "Inactive List." (The cynic will note that marginal NBA players seem to have a lot fewer back spasms nowadays.)

Players assigned to the NBA Developmental League (see question number 81) are automatically placed on their team's Inactive List.

Since players who are on the Suspended, NBA Draft, Volunarily Retired and Armed Services lists are on neither the Active nor Inactive List, these players are ignored for roster size limitations. For example, in early 2015 the Sixers had 15 players on its roster, and had placed Andrei Kirilenko on its Suspended List. This freed up a roster spot for the team to acquire Jared Cunningham from the Clippers.

1 A hardship can be deemed to exist when a team has four players who are sick or injured and have missed at least three games, and will continue to be unable to play. If a hardship is granted, the hardship ends when one of the sick or injured players is physically able to resume playing. The team must then release player(s) to get back to the roster limit, although teams have the option to retain the hardship player and release a different player to get back to the limit."

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q79

[TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]]

2015 NBA Draft Early-Entry List Withdrawal Deadline

by: DraftExpress
June 15, 2015
Tracking the decisions of the NCAA and international players who withdrew their names from the 2015 NBA draft.

Staying in the 2015 NBA Draft

Mario Hezonja Barcelona 95 Int'l Croatia
Kristaps Porzingis Sevilla 95 Int'l Latvia
Nikola Milutinov Partizan 94 Int'l Serbia
Guillermo Hernangomez Sevilla 94 Int'l Spain
Mouhammadou Jaiteh Nanterre 94 Int'l France
Cedi Osman Anadolu Efes 95 Int'l Turkey
Juan Vaulet Bahia Blanca 96 Int'l Argentina
Nikola Radicevic Sevilla 94 Int'l Serbia
Satnam Singh IMG Academy 95 Int'l India
Dimitris Agravanis Olympiakos 94 Int'l Greece
Jong-Hyun Lee Korea University 94 Int'l Korea
Adin Vrabac Trier 94 Int'l Bosnia

Withdrawing from the 2015 NBA Draft

Aleksandar Vezenkov Aris 95 Int'l Bulgaria
Timothe Luwawu Antibes 95 Int'l France
George de Paula Pinheiros 96 Int'l Brazil
Nedim Buza Oostende 95 Int'l Bosnia
Moussa Diagne Fuenlabrada 94 Int'l Senegal
Marc Garcia Manresa 96 Int'l Spain
Alpha Kaba Pau Orthez 96 Int'l France
Paul Zipser Bayern Muenchen 94 Int'l Germany
Andzejs Pasecniks VEF Riga 95 Int'l Latvia
Alberto Abalde Joventut 95 Int'l Spain
Rade Zagorac Mega Leks 95 Int'l Serbia
Andrey Desyatnikov Zenit St Petersburg 94 Int'l Russia
Lucas Dias Pinheiros 95 Int'l Brazil
Danilo Fuzaro Minas 94 Int'l Brazil
Simone Fontecchio Virtus Bologna 95 Int'l Italy
Kevin Harley Poitiers 95 Int'l France
Wael Arakji Al-Riyadi Beirut 94 Int'l Lebanon
Miroslav Pasajlic Uzice 95 Int'l Serbia
Dusan Kutlesic Metalac 94 Int'l Serbia
Djoko Salic KK Spars 95 Int'l Serbia
Alexandr Zhigulin Huesca 94 Int'l Kazahkstan
Oriol Pauli Gran Canaria 94 Int'l Spain
Aleksej Nikolic KK Spars 95 Int'l Slovenia
Marko Tejic Red Star 95 Int'l Serbia
Sergiy Zagreba Dnipro 94 Int'l Ukraine
Alexandre Chassang ASVEL 94 Int'l France
Vladyslav Koreniuk Dnipro 94 Int'l Ukraine
Humberto Gomes Pinheiros 95 Int'l Brazil
Beka Burjanadze La Coruna 94 Int'l Georgia
Eleftherios Bochoridis Panathinaikos 94 Int'l Greece
Ognjen Dobric Radnicki Basket 95 Int'l Serbia
Juan Hernangomez Estudiantes 95 Int'l Spain

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