BloopOracle wrote:my sources are telling me Boston is willing to give up #6, #17, Olnyk or Sullinger, and potentially a Brooklyn unprotected pick as well if that what it takes, which it sound like it will with as many teams involved in the bidding
BloopOracle wrote:my sources are telling me Boston is willing to give up #6, #17, Olnyk or Sullinger, and potentially a Brooklyn unprotected pick as well if that what it takes, which it sound like it will with as many teams involved in the bidding
I wonder if Flip has told Ainge to find a good young vet to trade the 6 for. Its unfortunate that there is really no perfect trade partner. No one really has the combination of a nice pick and nice young player.
I think the deal with Boston should include Bradley's rights, Olynyk, Bass' expiring, Bogans' non-guaranteed, 6, 17 and a Brooklyn pick for Love and Bud's bad deal. Bradley can be a good combo guard off the bench as a ruthless defender. He and Ricky for stretches of the game would make life difficult on the opposing guards. He also improved to an almost 40% 3 point shooter last year on over 3 attempts per game which was the most of his career. I know his deal is up, but I just don't see a team throwing big money at a guy who has some injury concerns without a true position. I think Bass is a good backup for expiring money. Olynyk is an ideal backup big in my opinion with his offensive versatility which is something we lacked last year from the bigs off the bench. I think you try to get Vonleh in this scenario at 6 or try to trade 6 and 17 to get him if needed. I think you take Stauskas at 13 to give you a guard who can handle the ball next to Bradley on the second unit. That leaves the ideal rotation at:
I still think that team remains competitive even though there is a major dip at the production from the starting 4 spot because the backup PG now becomes an elite defender and good shooter, we get a backup 2 who can shoot and handle the ball and we get a starting 4 who is a better defensive fit next to Pek with a backup who is leaps and bounds more offensively versatile than DC. Also Dieng can protect the rim next to Olynyk while Vonleh can protect the rim next to Pek. The only glaring weakness is the defensive production from the 2, but Ricky and Bradley can handle most of the 2's in today's game as there are few left who are big guys like Thompson, Kobe and Joe Johnson.
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I like it Khans but I think Vonleh is going to take a few years in the league to develop into a starter, reminds me a lot of Derrick Favors. I can imagine Olynyk would start next to Pek in that scenario. Olynyk played great towards the end of the season and I think he's going to develop in to a very good offensive player. A bigman rotation of Pek - Dieng - Olynyk - Vonleh is appealing and they each bring something different to the table.
Stauskas at 13 would be a steal as I think he's gone by 9. Reminds me of J.J Reddik and I'd say that's his ceiling, but every team needs a shooter like that off the bench.
Rights to Avery Bradley would be good too, but I'm not sure he's worth much more than 4 mil a season, and I can definitely see a team paying more for him than that - maybe 3 year 15 mil like Budinger's contract.
Kevin Love, Chase Budinger and 40th for 6th, 17th, Brooklyn's 2015 1st, Kelly Olynyk, Brandon Bass (expiring), Keith Bogans (cut) and bird rights to Avery Bradley.
khans2k5 wrote:I think the deal with Boston should include Bradley's rights, Olynyk, Bass' expiring, Bogans' non-guaranteed, 6, 17 and a Brooklyn pick for Love and Bud's bad deal. Bradley can be a good combo guard off the bench as a ruthless defender. He and Ricky for stretches of the game would make life difficult on the opposing guards. He also improved to an almost 40% 3 point shooter last year on over 3 attempts per game which was the most of his career. I know his deal is up, but I just don't see a team throwing big money at a guy who has some injury concerns without a true position. I think Bass is a good backup for expiring money. Olynyk is an ideal backup big in my opinion with his offensive versatility which is something we lacked last year from the bigs off the bench. I think you try to get Vonleh in this scenario at 6 or try to trade 6 and 17 to get him if needed. I think you take Stauskas at 13 to give you a guard who can handle the ball next to Bradley on the second unit. That leaves the ideal rotation at:
I still think that team remains competitive even though there is a major dip at the production from the starting 4 spot because the backup PG now becomes an elite defender and good shooter, we get a backup 2 who can shoot and handle the ball and we get a starting 4 who is a better defensive fit next to Pek with a backup who is leaps and bounds more offensively versatile than DC. Also Dieng can protect the rim next to Olynyk while Vonleh can protect the rim next to Pek. The only glaring weakness is the defensive production from the 2, but Ricky and Bradley can handle most of the 2's in today's game as there are few left who are big guys like Thompson, Kobe and Joe Johnson.
major dip? good lord martin is your go to scorer on that team. that's a bottom 5 team easy
If we did do the deal with Boston
I'd draft
Gordon at 6
Lavine At 13
Nurkic at 17
Then as much as I'd hate to do it... The best way to have a quick rebuild is to tank and hope to get Alexander or Okafor
A core of
Rubio
Lavine
Gordon Bazz
Okafor
Dieng Nurkic
Could make us a contender in a few years.
Throw in BKN's picks and that gives us role players.
If we don't get CLE's pick this is what I want