Whats going to happen to the assistant coaches?

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. A guy with his feet firmly planted on the ground is good for a young team.

I have no idea what this means
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alexftbl8181 wrote:. A guy with his feet firmly planted on the ground is good for a young team.

I have no idea what this means


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=+feet+firmly+planted+on+the+ground+To remain calm and stable.

Mitchell knows what he is or isn't. Most of the recent wolves assistants could probably be described that way. Probably have to go back to Laimbeer to find a more boisterous coach and one who thinks he's overqualified for the job he had. He tried for awhile to get into head coaching but he's been such a prick in the past most bridges he wants to go down have burned.
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What is it about Minnesota that we find it acceptable for our basketball coaches to hire their sons? This is at least the third Wolves combo I can think of without looking it up (Musselman, Adelman, and Saunders). And does anyone remember how painful it was to watch Clem Haskins' 350 pound son try to navigate his way from the bench to the elevated court at timeouts? Whew!

I'm not going to get too worked up about it, because I don't believe assistant coaches have a big impact on the success of the team, but Ryan certainly seems to be an uninspired choice. One thing he does have going for him is that he is apparently an advanced statistics savant. I didn't have the impression that advanced stats were a big part of the Adelman/Porter/Sikma coaching approach...in fact I'm not sure any of them even knew what they are. Perhaps this is a signal that the Wolves plan to have a more modern approach to the game.

I honestly have no way of evaluating Sid Lowe as an assistant. I want to rip him because he was clearly a terrible point guard and a terrible head coach. But the skills necessary to be a good assistant coach are quite different, and I don't know if Sid has them or not. He never seems to have a problem finding a job, though, so at least the NBA fraternity seems to value him.

The only assistant coach I am excited about is Mitchell. I like what he did with that untalented Toronto team and think his COY award was well earned. He'll be more behind the scenes, obviously, as an assistant, but I expect his toughness to be a positive addition to what I see as a soft team.
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TheSP wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:This really is disheartening.

o one was trying to hire Flip Saunders to be a head coach or GM last year. What does Glen Taylor do? He swoops in and puts Flip in the highest executive position in the Wolves basketball organization.

The League is filled with for NBA head coaches with terrific records (e.g., Hollins and Karl) along with a slew of assistant NBA coaches who on winning teams. What does Flip do? He appoints himself as our new head coach. Not the worst thing since Flip has been a very good head coach in the League, but no team was beating down his door to hire him for several years and now he'll have his attention divided between two huge jobs at a critical time for the franchise.

Who does Flip hire as his assistants? A guy with one of the worst winning percentages you'll ever see from a head coach. He hires Sam, who is more of a tough guy than a basketball mind. And he hires his son. Not that Sam and Ryan are necessarily bad. But disappointing.

Overall, the who thing strikes me as incredibly parochal and totally uninspiring.


With respect to Lowe the requirements to be a very good assistant coach and a very good head coach are very different. Lowe could well be a great assistant with a focus on point guards but not have the skills to be an in game manager.

As for Mitchell I would love to see him on the staff given they're likely beginning another rebuild. A guy with his feet firmly planted on the ground is good for a young team.

Finally, yeah, hiring your kid just plain blows.

You beat me to it with your comments about Lowe and Mitchell, sp!
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Let's be honest every HC with legit experience like Flip tends to bring in guys they are familiar with. It seems worse in this case because Flip was already here and familiarity has been what this franchise has been about. Lowe has had no problem being employed so my guess is he isn't a basketball moron just a bad HC. Likewise I bet Rambis may actually be a terrific assistant. Flip hired his son so what? Maybe he ends up being as good of a coach as Eric Mussleman who I would love to have on the staff and unless I missed something is still a possibility. Heck maybe David Adelman will become a worthwhile coach. I'm perfectly fine with Flip hiring people he thinks will help him do his thing as a HC and if its familiar faces?? Well that quite frankly makes a lot of sense.
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alexftbl8181 wrote:. A guy with his feet firmly planted on the ground is good for a young team.

I have no idea what this means


It means somebody who knows what it takes to make it in the NBA (hard work) and is willing to call out a player when their head gets to be as big as their paycheck. Sam's been there, he had to work for everything he got as a Player and will not tolerate someone who thinks his shit doesn't stink or that he's more important than the team. Perfect example was the story Lip told of Sam putting KG on the spot when KG was telling everybody else they have to do more rather than KG understanding HE needed to do more.

Feet planted firmly on the ground = Deals no bullshit, accepts no bullshit
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TheSP wrote:
alexftbl8181 wrote:. A guy with his feet firmly planted on the ground is good for a young team.

I have no idea what this means


It means somebody who knows what it takes to make it in the NBA (hard work) and is willing to call out a player when their head gets to be as big as their paycheck. Sam's been there, he had to work for everything he got as a Player and will not tolerate someone who thinks his shit doesn't stink or that he's more important than the team. Perfect example was the story Lip told of Sam putting KG on the spot when KG was telling everybody else they have to do more rather than KG understanding HE needed to do more.

Feet planted firmly on the ground = Deals no bullshit, accepts no bullshit


I think thats what got him fired in the first place. Also probably why Carter kicked his ass. Not quite sure how long that approach works with multimillionaires
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alexftbl8181 wrote:
TheSP wrote:
alexftbl8181 wrote:. A guy with his feet firmly planted on the ground is good for a young team.

I have no idea what this means


It means somebody who knows what it takes to make it in the NBA (hard work) and is willing to call out a player when their head gets to be as big as their paycheck. Sam's been there, he had to work for everything he got as a Player and will not tolerate someone who thinks his shit doesn't stink or that he's more important than the team. Perfect example was the story Lip told of Sam putting KG on the spot when KG was telling everybody else they have to do more rather than KG understanding HE needed to do more.

Feet planted firmly on the ground = Deals no bullshit, accepts no bullshit


I think thats what got him fired in the first place. Also probably why Carter kicked his ass. Not quite sure how long that approach works with multimillionaires


This reminds me of the Spree Carlisimo choking insident that tainted both guys. A number of top basketball minds the past 10 years or so have praised PJ for the work he has done as an assistant and really I thought he did a pretty good job as a interm coach for that Nets team. My point is to a certain extent guys can learn and get past these things. I think its good to have one demanding no nonsense coach on the bench. Mitchell seems to fill that role as an assistant so that works for me.
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monsterpile wrote:Let's be honest every HC with legit experience like Flip tends to bring in guys they are familiar with. It seems worse in this case because Flip was already here and familiarity has been what this franchise has been about. Lowe has had no problem being employed so my guess is he isn't a basketball moron just a bad HC. Likewise I bet Rambis may actually be a terrific assistant. Flip hired his son so what? Maybe he ends up being as good of a coach as Eric Mussleman who I would love to have on the staff and unless I missed something is still a possibility. Heck maybe David Adelman will become a worthwhile coach. I'm perfectly fine with Flip hiring people he thinks will help him do his thing as a HC and if its familiar faces?? Well that quite frankly makes a lot of sense.

It's a problem because it seems like this team only hires people because they're familiar with them, not because they're any good.
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Who do you think will be our lead assistant next season? I will be ok if we hired eric messleman for it. Like the job he did for the warriors in his 2 yr stint as hc there. He also coached tyreke evans to his rookie of the year and best season.

Do you think bobby jackson will be retain as player development coach? I was hoping we keep both sikma and dave adelman, it seems unlikely now to keep both but i hope we could keep one.
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