My Summer Wish For Kevin Love

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

You realize the draft is still weeks away, right? If they haven't yet, why would they in the future? This is flawed thinking. You could say that about the Wolves in how they haven't traded Love yet. If they haven't yet, why would they? Oh, because teams are bound to up the ante by draft night.

I've said this over and over that the best offers are still to come. If you're Flip, you wait til draft night to make the move. Squeeze all the value you can for him.

[alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]]

but why would they boost their offers at the draft? If it's draft night and the cavs still have the 1st pick, they're using it

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

my ultimate point being, I don't think teams are offering what the Wolves were originally hoping for. If that deal or Barnes/thompson/lee 1st, or the Bulls deal were on the table right now, then the Wolves would of delt Love by now.

I'm thinking GM's are sitting back thinking "why give up to much too a franchise that has a history of making bad decisions". Wolves seem more desperate to get rid of Love as other teams are in trying to acquire him

I agree with part of Alex's point here...I also don't think that there have been any offers yet that, at least, have to be considered...e.g. Boston-multiple picks and Olynyk, Cleveland--#1 and Waiters, Chicago--#16 and 19 and Butler, etc. While the importance of adding a player like Love creates some urgency, he is also not without flaws, and teams will not quickly give up the kind of value that has been rumored.

But I don't agree with Alex's statement that Flip would have moved already with one of the rumored deals. Flip is also going to proceed cautiously before surrendering an asset like Love, and also believes (validly, I think) that offers will only improve as a bidding war develops around draft time.

We don't know for sure, but that is what I guess is going on. I think this is going to be a really interesting three weeks coming up.

[The Rage Monster [enjin:8010341]]

but why would they boost their offers at the draft? If it's draft night and the cavs still have the 1st pick, they're using it

Where do you keep coming up with this stuff?

You're saying if a team initially doesn't throw out it's top offer, they will never make their best offer. That's just stupid. Why would any of these teams make their best offer their first offer? GS would look way better with Thompson than they would without and the Cavs would look better with whoever they like at #1 than without. Why wouldn't they hold out until closer to the draft and hope they can get Love without giving up something valuable.

[mjs34]

Even more important is that the wolves shouldn't take a lesser offer because it actually puts the team in a worse position moving forward. We don't want to be a 30 win team again with no way to improve. That is what the initial offers would accomplish. We would be better off playing out the year with Love (taking a chance on him re-signing), and then sucking the following year for a top five pick if he leaves. We still have an option of a S&T if the team Love likes doesn't have cap space. The wolves have more leverage than the media would like to admit.

[thedoper]

Even more important is that the wolves shouldn't take a lesser offer because it actually puts the team in a worse position moving forward. We don't want to be a 30 win team again with no way to improve. That is what the initial offers would accomplish. We would be better off playing out the year with Love (taking a chance on him re-signing), and then sucking the following year for a top five pick if he leaves. We still have an option of a S&T if the team Love likes doesn't have cap space. The wolves have more leverage than the media would like to admit.

I couldn't agree more. Any long term contracts over 5 mil are a no go and anything that is not a top 5 pick in this draft just does nothing for me. I can't think of a deal which gives us contributing players now and makes us a great deal better than last season.

[alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]]

but why would they boost their offers at the draft? If it's draft night and the cavs still have the 1st pick, they're using it

Where do you keep coming up with this stuff?

You're saying if a team initially doesn't throw out it's top offer, they will never make their best offer. That's just stupid. Why would any of these teams make their best offer their first offer? GS would look way better with Thompson than they would without and the Cavs would look better with whoever they like at #1 than without. Why wouldn't they hold out until closer to the draft and hope they can get Love without giving up something valuable.

So whats going to make teams raise their offers at draft night?

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Alex, I think draft night is when a lot of teams' offers will rise due to the situation being right in front of them. That's when decisions have to be made. Is Cleveland planning on going after a super team with LeBron or are they rebuilding with picks? Is Boston going to surround Rondo with a significant piece or be in our shoes with their star next summer? Basically, draft night is when their cards will be shown and I'd assume we'd make a deal. The threat of just one team boosting their offer should boost all the offers.

[Phenom]

When draft night rolls around, teams will have much better knowledge of who will be available at what pick. That is an important component of any trade involving draft picks. The price would increase at this time if a team really wants Love and is staring at a draft that they are not enamored with. Consequently, teams like Golden State, who have no picks this year to speak of, will keep offers low until a team with a good draft pick gets serious, which will be the 11th hour. It is then that Golden State will have to decide between Love or Klay. It is at this time that the Wolves tell the teams involved that a third team needs to be involved to satisfy another condition and once those teams are that deep into negotiations, they will probably make an effort to seal the deal. The thought of Love dropping threes in their uniform overtakes their thoughts, adrenaline is pumping, and they finally give that extra piece that Flip covets and BOOM best offer.

[Coolbreeze44]

but why would they boost their offers at the draft? If it's draft night and the cavs still have the 1st pick, they're using it

Where do you keep coming up with this stuff?

You're saying if a team initially doesn't throw out it's top offer, they will never make their best offer. That's just stupid. Why would any of these teams make their best offer their first offer? GS would look way better with Thompson than they would without and the Cavs would look better with whoever they like at #1 than without. Why wouldn't they hold out until closer to the draft and hope they can get Love without giving up something valuable.

Rage, you really get what's going on here. Of course you are going to wait to make your best offer. Negotiating 101. As the draft gets closer teams that want Love will become more desperate, and the Wolves will be more willing to make a deal. Deals don't get done until these factors are in play.