Damn Flip called Love out on KFAN

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

BTW, the Sam Mitchell reference is just another reason why he has always been one of my favorite NBA characters. He has always commanded respect in every locker room (well, perhaps not with Vince Carter :) ).

My favorite Sam Mitchell story happened when the players' union was close to going on strike several years ago. Sam didn't think it was a good idea. Karl Malone was leading the cause for striking, and during a players' meeting, he stood by the door with those big guns folded and said "Anyone who votes no on the strike, is gonna have to walk past me." Sam got up, went into that cool Mitchell stroll and shuffled past Malone while saying "I'm walking past you...right now". Sources in the room said that incident turned the vote around, and the players voted not to strike.

I'm so glad Sam is back with the team. Hopefully he imparts some of his toughness to a team that really needs it.

[Monster]

I just finishing listening to the whole (ime Flip was on and it was pretty interesting.

First of all JVG was on and said he was really intruiged with the job working for Flip but he really could never get past the fact that he thought Flip was the right guy for the job. Ultimately he said Flip being the coach was a no-brainer. I wasn't aware that Flip and JVG were that close but it seemed pretty legit I don't know if Barreio has ever had JVG on his show before.

Flip throughout was very much about the team. This comment about Love not having a right to be frustrated simply was making a point that nobody should put themselves above the team. In doing that Flip showed an example of KG who is the best player in Wolves history and one of the best all-around players the game has ever seen imo. So if Love who is a student of the game can't take that to heart or if it offends him...well maybe he should move on. Now should Flip have said this comment? That's a fair debate but I also don't know if Flip was directly calling out Love here.

One other thing I'm gonna say about Love and I don't want to make excuses for him but who was his Sam Mitchell? Who was that guy you look back and say that guy probably molded Love into the right guy? The way this franchise was at times its kind of amazing how Love was able to become what he was. I think we all can see Love isn't that leader this team needs or at least hasn't been. Not every best player on a team is. Flip talked about Rubio being more vocal and leading the team because Flip said he is hard on his PGs because its their responsibility to get guys in the right spots. If Flip enables or get Rubio to be the Leader I think we have thought he can be both on the floor and galvinizing the team...that could change things on this team that's really been missing a leader for years.

One thing that was interesting was Flip said he thought the team was setup well to play zone with 2 rebounding guys clogging the paint and Rubio and Brewer playing passing lanes and I think he has a point. He also talked about lowering minutes for Pek or at least playing shorter bursts like 7 mins instead of 10-11mins.

If you have the time listening to both segments is worth your time. JVG was pretty interesting and Flip tiptoes around some things (in some cases as well he should) but also had some good info. I'm feeling that homer excitedment about Flip being coach I still don't think its perfect but a lot of the things he said does make it sound like he is going to go with a vision but cater to the roster. That in my mind is exactly the type of coach we needed. He also said not to give up on Shved so I'll look forward to seeing what he has in SL. Lol

[alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]]

How about any of you put yourself's in Loves shoes. Aren't you frustrated? You got stuck with Rambis, who sucked and wanted to bury you. You could be playing with Steph Curry, instead you got 2 years of Flynn and Wes Johnson. You worked your ass off and improved your game every season when everyone thought you would just be another David Lee. You wanted to stay in Minnesota for 5 years, but didn't get the deal because they wanted to save it for a PG who couldn't score.

Sure lets just say Love was a really good defender last year. So at best they would of been 1st round fodder. So they become the KG wolves who couldn't get out of first round. So instead of being ripped for not getting to the playoffs, he gets ripped for not getting out of the first round just like KG.

Oh and speaking of KG. It looks especially stupid to bring up KG, considering the first season after he leaves he wins a title! Guess he had a reason to be frustrated after all Flip?

[Lipoli390]

As I mentioned in my earlier post, I like Flip's team-first attitude. But I still consider Flip's decision to say what he said publicly an imprudent and inappropriate decision given Flip's position in the organization and the circumstances the franchise currently faces. In addition, I think Alex makes a good point. Although I agree with Flip's team approach and consider Love to be a bit of a whiner, it's hard to blame Love for being frustrated with this organization. I was in the room when Kahn told a large group of season ticket holders that Love was "at best, the 3rd or 4th best player on a championship caliber team. Then there is the list of things that Alex recited. The fair, honest and smart answer to Danny B's question would have been something like the following:

"yes, I can understand why Love is frustrated. He has every reason to be frustrated. But he's not the only one who's frustrated. The other guys in that locker room are frustrated and if they're not they should be. And no one is more frustrated than me".

There was no good reason for Flip to say what he said publicly at this juncture. As for the leverage issue, Flip's comments will likely embolden teams in their negotiations since they will view those comments as further confirmation that the Wolves have no intention of keeping Love. And it further damages the prospect of getting Love to cooperate and work with the Wolves in getting a win-win deal done.

As I mentioned, I think Flip has proven himself to be a good head coach and I'm actually starting to look forward to him taking over on the bench. But I am increasingly convinced that Flip should not be the top executive of this team's basketball operations. In my view, he's not cut out for that sort of position. Even worse now that his time, attention and perspective will be divided between two highly demanding and very different positions.

[mjs34]

As I mentioned in my earlier post, I like Flip's team-first attitude. But I still consider Flip's decision to say what he said publicly an imprudent and inappropriate decision given Flip's position in the organization and the circumstances the franchise currently faces. In addition, I think Alex makes a good point. Although I agree with Flip's team approach and consider Love to be a bit of a whiner, it's hard to blame Love for being frustrated with this organization. I was in the room when Kahn told a large group of season ticket holders that Love was "at best, the 3rd or 4th best player on a championship caliber team. Then there is the list of things that Alex recited. The fair, honest and smart answer to Danny B's question would have been something like the following:

"yes, I can understand why Love is frustrated. He has every reason to be frustrated. But he's not the only one who's frustrated. The other guys in that locker room are frustrated and if they're not they should be. And no one is more frustrated than me".

There was no good reason for Flip to say what he said publicly at this juncture. As for the leverage issue, Flip's comments will likely embolden teams in their negotiations since they will view those comments as further confirmation that the Wolves have no intention of keeping Love. And it further damages the prospect of getting Love to cooperate and work with the Wolves in getting a win-win deal done.

As I mentioned, I think Flip has proven himself to be a good head coach and I'm actually starting to look forward to him taking over on the bench. But I am increasingly convinced that Flip should not be the top executive of this team's basketball operations. In my view, he's not cut out for that sort of position. Even worse now that his time, attention and perspective will be divided between two highly demanding and very different positions.

Lip, I am not too concerned about Flip's comments, but watching the press conference, I was stunned at Flip's reaction when one of the reporters asked about Glen replacing Flip in the FO. It was hilarious, and caught Flip completely off guard. Flip tried to laugh it off, but he was clearly upset about it. I think Flip took the POBO job with the master plan of having complete control while coaching. I think it would be better for the team, and ultimate justice to see him replaced up top.

[Phenom]

Im cool with Flips comments. For all we know, Love wants nothing to do with what Flip is selling so Flip is publicly telling Love that you are either with us or against us and when he is traded, there will be fan support.

[Coolbreeze44]

So many thoughts running through my head here. Time for bullet points:

- Love is not a free agent................yet. He is still under control of the team.
- I think there is a huge overreaction to what Flip said here
- Love is going to be dealt before the season starts. This idea that Love could still be convinced to stay is nonsense.
- As a big Love supporter, I have to admit I'm ready to move on without him. I really don't think it's the end of the world if he goes.
- We have a better chance of becoming a contender sooner without Love than with him.

[Monster]

Lip (and anyone else) I would say you should really listen to the whole spot starting with JVG and Flip. Its worth your time even though its gonna be over an hour. There are plenty of interesting bits I didn't mention. One thing I'll mention again is Flip was very adament about cohesion and team and JVG was saying the same thing. Sidenote JVG had his own take on Love that's interesting enough. Tell me if I am wrong because it was years ago but one of the things Flip's teams did for years was play as a team. It was one of the strengths of the Wolves. Flip seemed to be able to plug certain guys in and get some good mileage out of them. Yep they didn't get it done in the playoffs but at this point I'd be ok with getting to the playoffs and see what happens because you really never know. My point is I think Flip is really driven on creating a culture of team not individuals. Honestly I think that's great and actually kinda bold in this superstar driven league. Love's game fits into that REALLY well actually. Now will that vision and stance work? I really hope so but I don't know. We will see but its also going to come down to see if Flip's team in the FO can bring in some talent this summer.

Blah Blah blah listen to the radio spot. Lol

[alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]]

I think the point is why even say it at all? What's the possible good that could come out of it? Is he trying to convince fans that the team will be better next year because Love's personality won't be there? I hope fans aren't that dumb. Winning promotes culture. Notice how you don't hear the Heat or Spurs FO throwing out barbs at their players.

[Phenom]

Is it really a barb? I dont think Flip said anything that should hurt his feelings but if Love is willing to dish out criticism (publicly) he needs to be willing to take it too.