Who starts at Power Forward

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Saunders said today that it is a strong possibility that Covington starts at the 4. He likes Wiggins at the 2 and Layman and Culver are the frontrunners for starting at the 3 (The last part is media speculation based on what Ryan said today.)

Fine with Covington starting at the 4. We don't have great options anyways. What we do have are essentially unproven players.

However, I would have a big issue with Layman starting over Culver. Layman is not better than him at a single aspect of basketball.

Culver hasn't played 1 game yet. How can you be so sure?

You're joking, right? I guess Zion's not better than Noah Vonleh based on the "he hasn't played one game yet" idea.

We're talking about Jake freaking Layman.

[BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]]

Saunders said today that it is a strong possibility that Covington starts at the 4. He likes Wiggins at the 2 and Layman and Culver are the frontrunners for starting at the 3 (The last part is media speculation based on what Ryan said today.)

Fine with Covington starting at the 4. We don't have great options anyways. What we do have are essentially unproven players.

However, I would have a big issue with Layman starting over Culver. Layman is not better than him at a single aspect of basketball.

Culver hasn't played 1 game yet. How can you be so sure?

You're joking, right? I guess Zion's not better than Noah Vonleh based on the "he hasn't played one game yet" idea.

We're talking about Jake freaking Layman.

Jake Layman can jump higher.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

I chose Noah Vonleh purely on being the best fit next to KAT.

He'll help on the boards which was a weakness of ours last year. He can also defend at a decent level including being able to switch on to the perimeter. I also think he can become a better 3 point shooter. He's 250lb but moves quick for his size and has decent length

Ditto. He can also afford to get an early foul or two while KAT has to take it easy in the first quarter. It is such a disadvantage defensively that our Center is our best offensive weapon. That's why I'd prefer to see KAT as more of a PF defensively to start games and let Vonleh do the dirty work. Then slide RoCo to the 4 and bring Culver or Okogie off the bench as the 6th man and 3rd wing.

Finally, and I've said this before, RoCo creates no offensive mismatch at the 4. He doesn't have the handles to blow by bigger defenders or the size to exploit smaller defenders. Yes, he stretches the floor, but he can do that starting at the 3 too and Vonleh is an emerging 3-point threat that won't get pushed around inside and takes a ton of pressure off of KAT.

[worldK]

Just throwing this out there. How different/similar are Thad Young and Robert Covington especially physically and how they profile as PFs?

My answer is that covington is a proven wing and perimeter defender. He made all nba defensive team as a wing. So why would you play him at the 4 and have him guard pf's full time? That would be not playing to his strength. He can guard the small ball 4's and stretch 4's but why shift him away defensively from where he is best at?

Thad on the other hand, has played the 4 since his rookie season and majority of his career. He has not proven that he can guard wings at a high level and has been viewed as a 4.

Physically,

Saunders said today that it is a strong possibility that Covington starts at the 4. He likes Wiggins at the 2 and Layman and Culver are the frontrunners for starting at the 3 (The last part is media speculation based on what Ryan said today.)

I chose Noah Vonleh purely on being the best fit next to KAT.

He'll help on the boards which was a weakness of ours last year. He can also defend at a decent level including being able to switch on to the perimeter. I also think he can become a better 3 point shooter. He's 250lb but moves quick for his size and has decent length

Ditto. He can also afford to get an early foul or two while KAT has to take it easy in the first quarter. It is such a disadvantage defensively that our Center is our best offensive weapon. That's why I'd prefer to see KAT as more of a PF defensively to start games and let Vonleh do the dirty work. Then slide RoCo to the 4 and bring Culver or Okogie off the bench as the 6th man and 3rd wing.

Finally, and I've said this before, RoCo creates no offensive mismatch at the 4. He doesn't have the handles to blow by bigger defenders or the size to exploit smaller defenders. Yes, he stretches the floor, but he can do that starting at the 3 too and Vonleh is an emerging 3-point threat that won't get pushed around inside and takes a ton of pressure off of KAT.

Agreed Q. Il add that starting and playing majority of the game with 1c+3wings+1pg is not going to work for us because of personnel. That will work if you have a physical and elite rim protecting center like gobert,prime howard, prime chandler and deandre jordan like players. Or if you have a super athlete wing like a marion or bron or a long and athletic kirilenko. Otherwise, we are better off playing cov at the 3 and wig at the 4 and vonleh at pf. We can go small during a game but that should not be how we built the team especially when KAT is also our best offensive guy as q explained.