What About Rosas?

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lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:@CarmichaelDave: Hearing strong movement towards a front office setup with Sachin Gupta as Head of Ops and Monte McNair as GM/2nd in command for the Sacramento Kings.

Interviews continue today.

Fluid situation of course......


Losing Gupta would be a big loss for the Wolves front office.


Rockets guy McNair got the job. Hopefully Gupta stays put
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Volans19 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:@CarmichaelDave: Hearing strong movement towards a front office setup with Sachin Gupta as Head of Ops and Monte McNair as GM/2nd in command for the Sacramento Kings.

Interviews continue today.

Fluid situation of course......


Losing Gupta would be a big loss for the Wolves front office.


Rockets guy McNair got the job. Hopefully Gupta stays put


Based on the comments from Gupta in this article he is staying with the Wolves. Thats a relief.

https://www.sacbee.com/sports/article245822825.html
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monsterpile wrote:
Volans19 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:@CarmichaelDave: Hearing strong movement towards a front office setup with Sachin Gupta as Head of Ops and Monte McNair as GM/2nd in command for the Sacramento Kings.

Interviews continue today.

Fluid situation of course......


Losing Gupta would be a big loss for the Wolves front office.


Rockets guy McNair got the job. Hopefully Gupta stays put


Based on the comments from Gupta in this article he is staying with the Wolves. Thats a relief.

https://www.sacbee.com/sports/article245822825.html


Gupta seems understandably disappointed he didn't get the job. I hope he doesn't leave his position as #2 here to be McNair's #2 in Sacramento. I don't think he will, but you never know. Gupta is obviously well respected around the League so no telling how long he'll be here. Actually, no telling how long Rosas will be here either.

I think we probably have the best front office we've had here since the early days of McHale and Flip. I know that's a low bar, but it's something. Yet, we still don't know what we have in Rosas, Gupta and their other front office colleagues. To their credit, they brought in Russell, Beasley, Naz Reid and McLaughlin. And they moved Wiggins. Now they have three valuable draft picks, including the top pick. Who will they end up with? Will they re-sign Beasley to make that trade truly pay off. How much will they be willing to pay him and how motivated will he be to re-sign here for a reasonable amount? Rosas said he wanted the organization to excel at player development. Will they be able to develop Culver, Okogie, Reid and McLaughlin? Will Layman show value once healthy? Lots of questions to answer. We'll know a lot more about Rosas and Gupta in a few months. I think Gupta is the intellectual heavy weight in the front office and we need all the intellectual fire power we can get in this organization. So I'm really glad Gupta's still here.
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lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
Volans19 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:@CarmichaelDave: Hearing strong movement towards a front office setup with Sachin Gupta as Head of Ops and Monte McNair as GM/2nd in command for the Sacramento Kings.

Interviews continue today.

Fluid situation of course......


Losing Gupta would be a big loss for the Wolves front office.


Rockets guy McNair got the job. Hopefully Gupta stays put


Based on the comments from Gupta in this article he is staying with the Wolves. Thats a relief.

https://www.sacbee.com/sports/article245822825.html


Gupta seems understandably disappointed he didn't get the job. I hope he doesn't leave his position as #2 here to be McNair's #2 in Sacramento. I don't think he will, but you never know. Gupta is obviously well respected around the League so no telling how long he'll be here. Actually, no telling how long Rosas will be here either.

I think we probably have the best front office we've had here since the early days of McHale and Flip. I know that's a low bar, but it's something. Yet, we still don't know what we have in Rosas, Gupta and their other front office colleagues. To their credit, they brought in Russell, Beasley, Naz Reid and McLaughlin. And they moved Wiggins. Now they have three valuable draft picks, including the top pick. Who will they end up with? Will they re-sign Beasley to make that trade truly pay off. How much will they be willing to pay him and how motivated will he be to re-sign here for a reasonable amount? Rosas said he wanted the organization to excel at player development. Will they be able to develop Culver, Okogie, Reid and McLaughlin? Will Layman show value once healthy? Lots of questions to answer. We'll know a lot more about Rosas and Gupta in a few months. I think Gupta is the intellectual heavy weight in the front office and we need all the intellectual fire power we can get in this organization. So I'm really glad Gupta's still here.


IDk if you read the article Lip but it doesn't seem like a Gupta McNair Pairing is what Sacramento wanted. They are both analytical guys so it would make sense to diversify in terms of what people are good at. I got the sense from the article that Gupta wasn't actually really being considered for a spot there and/or didn't want it. I'd guess Rosas and his group likely give him a ton of latitude etc. He would likely have the same level of influence here...maybe more...based on how I read that article. Like you said you never know but it seems like we are keeping him...at least for now until the next franchise comes looking.
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monsterpile wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
Volans19 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:@CarmichaelDave: Hearing strong movement towards a front office setup with Sachin Gupta as Head of Ops and Monte McNair as GM/2nd in command for the Sacramento Kings.

Interviews continue today.

Fluid situation of course......


Losing Gupta would be a big loss for the Wolves front office.


Rockets guy McNair got the job. Hopefully Gupta stays put


Based on the comments from Gupta in this article he is staying with the Wolves. Thats a relief.

https://www.sacbee.com/sports/article245822825.html


Gupta seems understandably disappointed he didn't get the job. I hope he doesn't leave his position as #2 here to be McNair's #2 in Sacramento. I don't think he will, but you never know. Gupta is obviously well respected around the League so no telling how long he'll be here. Actually, no telling how long Rosas will be here either.

I think we probably have the best front office we've had here since the early days of McHale and Flip. I know that's a low bar, but it's something. Yet, we still don't know what we have in Rosas, Gupta and their other front office colleagues. To their credit, they brought in Russell, Beasley, Naz Reid and McLaughlin. And they moved Wiggins. Now they have three valuable draft picks, including the top pick. Who will they end up with? Will they re-sign Beasley to make that trade truly pay off. How much will they be willing to pay him and how motivated will he be to re-sign here for a reasonable amount? Rosas said he wanted the organization to excel at player development. Will they be able to develop Culver, Okogie, Reid and McLaughlin? Will Layman show value once healthy? Lots of questions to answer. We'll know a lot more about Rosas and Gupta in a few months. I think Gupta is the intellectual heavy weight in the front office and we need all the intellectual fire power we can get in this organization. So I'm really glad Gupta's still here.


IDk if you read the article Lip but it doesn't seem like a Gupta McNair Pairing is what Sacramento wanted. They are both analytical guys so it would make sense to diversify in terms of what people are good at. I got the sense from the article that Gupta wasn't actually really being considered for a spot there and/or didn't want it. I'd guess Rosas and his group likely give him a ton of latitude etc. He would likely have the same level of influence here...maybe more...based on how I read that article. Like you said you never know but it seems like we are keeping him...at least for now until the next franchise comes looking.


Interesting how we each read the article a little differently. I thought the article quoted Gupta saying that he would have made McNair his top assistant if he had gotten the job. And it sure seemed like Gupta really wanted the job. It also seemed like he was being considered since they had him come out there and he apparently met the owner's family among others. But bottom line is that Gupta didn't get the job. And I agree with you that it doesn't make much sense to have to analytics guys at the top of the front office hierarchy. But we'll see. I like having Gupta here and I agree that it looks like we're keeping him for now. I think he likes it here and I suspect he likes Rosas. I've never met Rosas, but he sure seems like a terrific guy who would be easy to work for.
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I'm trying to be positive about Rosas. But then I see statements by Rosas like the following in response to a question about the Wolves guard positions:

"A combo guy that can guard two spots would really help us moving forward. To be fair and to just follow up, those guys are gonna impact the game are gonna be more in free agency and trades." 2 weeks ago - via Twitter DaneMooreNBA

Rosas traded for two defensively-challenged guards in Russell and Beasley and he seems determined to re-sign Beasley who is looking to be the teams starting SG. So where does this defensive combo guard play and how many minutes does he get? And if he's looking to bring in a defensive guard, why did he draft Culver and what about Okogie? This team needs defense. But if Rosas is determined to re-sign Beasley and expects him to be a starter, then I would think the focus on improving the team's defense would be on one of the the two big positions and the SF position.

Rosas mentioned that the defensive combo guard he's looking for would likely be acquired via trade or free agency. I'm not sure I see that guard among the list of free agents, unless he's interested in Kris Dunn. I'm not sure who he'd be targeting in trade.
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lipoli390 wrote:I'm trying to be positive about Rosas. But then I see statements by Rosas like the following in response to a question about the Wolves guard positions:

"A combo guy that can guard two spots would really help us moving forward. To be fair and to just follow up, those guys are gonna impact the game are gonna be more in free agency and trades." 2 weeks ago - via Twitter DaneMooreNBA

Rosas traded for two defensively-challenged guards in Russell and Beasley and he seems determined to re-sign Beasley who is looking to be the teams starting SG. So where does this defensive combo guard play and how many minutes does he get? And if he's looking to bring in a defensive guard, why did he draft Culver and what about Okogie? This team needs defense. But if Rosas is determined to re-sign Beasley and expects him to be a starter, then I would think the focus on improving the team's defense would be on one of the the two big positions and the SF position.

Rosas mentioned that the defensive combo guard he's looking for would likely be acquired via trade or free agency. I'm not sure I see that guard among the list of free agents, unless he's interested in Kris Dunn. I'm not sure who he'd be targeting in trade.


I have a theory about Rosas that the only player he feels untouchable is KAT. I think he views Russell and Beasley as assets.

I think the main piece he wanted in the Cov trade was the 1st round pick and he is using the massive usage of Beasley to raise his trade value for a legit star. While Beasley can still provide something the Wolves are weak at in shooting until we can legit trade him.

I think Russell was traded for to extend the timeline on Kat. I think Rosas legit sees Russell as a person who can in theory help the Wolves win but I legit feel he is using Russell as a time extender on Kat who can be a legit needle mover. Also think Russell will be the key piece in a monster trade for a player like Simmons, Giannis, Harden, George, etc....

If Rosas is anything like Morey he will go big game hunting and Russell, #1 pick, #17 pick and Beasley allow you to do that.

Like would you do Russell, James Johnson, #1 pick and a future 1st for Harden, Gordon and Tucker.

Harden/McLaughlin
Gordon/culver
Okogie/Layman
Tucker/Vanderbilt
Towns/naz

#17 and 32 pick sprinkled in. Just have a feeling rosas could go big game hunting
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lipoli390 wrote:I'm trying to be positive about Rosas. But then I see statements by Rosas like the following in response to a question about the Wolves guard positions:

"A combo guy that can guard two spots would really help us moving forward. To be fair and to just follow up, those guys are gonna impact the game are gonna be more in free agency and trades." 2 weeks ago - via Twitter DaneMooreNBA

Rosas traded for two defensively-challenged guards in Russell and Beasley and he seems determined to re-sign Beasley who is looking to be the teams starting SG. So where does this defensive combo guard play and how many minutes does he get? And if he's looking to bring in a defensive guard, why did he draft Culver and what about Okogie? This team needs defense. But if Rosas is determined to re-sign Beasley and expects him to be a starter, then I would think the focus on improving the team's defense would be on one of the the two big positions and the SF position.

Rosas mentioned that the defensive combo guard he's looking for would likely be acquired via trade or free agency. I'm not sure I see that guard among the list of free agents, unless he's interested in Kris Dunn. I'm not sure who he'd be targeting in trade.


I feel comfortable with Josh Okogie or Jarrett Culver defensively against 1's and 2's as both are pretty reliable, stout defenders in the backcourt. I have to imagine that Gersson Rosas is at least on the same page there.

That makes me believe he's referring to the 3/4 forward spot where the Wolves have a hole after losing Robert Covington to trade. If I'm right about that, then I hope Rosas is setting his sights on Jerami Grant in free agency as I will continue to believe he's a great fit in Minnesota regardless of what other moves are made this off-season.
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Camden0916 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:I'm trying to be positive about Rosas. But then I see statements by Rosas like the following in response to a question about the Wolves guard positions:

"A combo guy that can guard two spots would really help us moving forward. To be fair and to just follow up, those guys are gonna impact the game are gonna be more in free agency and trades." 2 weeks ago - via Twitter DaneMooreNBA

Rosas traded for two defensively-challenged guards in Russell and Beasley and he seems determined to re-sign Beasley who is looking to be the teams starting SG. So where does this defensive combo guard play and how many minutes does he get? And if he's looking to bring in a defensive guard, why did he draft Culver and what about Okogie? This team needs defense. But if Rosas is determined to re-sign Beasley and expects him to be a starter, then I would think the focus on improving the team's defense would be on one of the the two big positions and the SF position.

Rosas mentioned that the defensive combo guard he's looking for would likely be acquired via trade or free agency. I'm not sure I see that guard among the list of free agents, unless he's interested in Kris Dunn. I'm not sure who he'd be targeting in trade.


I feel comfortable with Josh Okogie or Jarrett Culver defensively against 1's and 2's as both are pretty reliable, stout defenders in the backcourt. I have to imagine that Gersson Rosas is at least on the same page there.

That makes me believe he's referring to the 3/4 forward spot where the Wolves have a hole after losing Robert Covington to trade. If I'm right about that, then I hope Rosas is setting his sights on Jerami Grant in free agency as I will continue to believe he's a great fit in Minnesota regardless of what other moves are made this off-season.


I just don't think we are getting Grant. They gave up a 1st to get him. He was playing more then Millsap in the playoffs. Younger pierce and I think a team would for sure give him more then 9 a year.

I agree grant would be perfect just don't think it's happening
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I agree (and hope) that Rosas was talking about a hybrid forward that can guard multiple positions versus a hybrid guard.

But if he was talking about the guard position, Kris Dunn is an interesting name to bring up. He is one of the few guards that absolutely can change the tone of a team defense. He's becoming a bit like Patrick Beverley in that regards. We saw the hints of this when he played for the Wolves, but now he is a fully formed vet.....he still can't shoot though.
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