lipoli390 wrote:LST - Interesting info. Thanks for sharing. I'm a bit disturbed by the request for a room separate from and above his teammates. It seems arrogant. But maybe he needs quiet. A friend of mine knows one of Andrew's former personal chefs. Apparently, Wiggins is very, very particular about what he wants and can be a jerk if he doesn't get exactly what he wants. But he still seems like a good guy who is liked by his teammates and coaches. So I'm not worried.
Thanks for the info from both LST and Lip.
Lip I think your idea of Wiggins asking for something separate from everyone else for space and quite makes some sense. As someone with ADHD and working with college students with various disabilities I can actually see some legit functional reason for that. I had never thought about how the constant travel would affect me getting my sleep. Because I find it difficult to turn my brain off I can't have other people doing anything around me if I want to fall asleep. Wiggins is clearly an introvert and obviously quirky and particular so maybe some level of OCD? So yeah I could see him having some reasons beyond being a spoiled guy or being a jerk. Who knows. I tend to think Thibs wouldn't be too into having this request for separation either but maybe not.
lipoli390 wrote:LST - Interesting info. Thanks for sharing. I'm a bit disturbed by the request for a room separate from and above his teammates. It seems arrogant. But maybe he needs quiet. A friend of mine knows one of Andrew's former personal chefs. Apparently, Wiggins is very, very particular about what he wants and can be a jerk if he doesn't get exactly what he wants. But he still seems like a good guy who is liked by his teammates and coaches. So I'm not worried.
Thanks for the info from both LST and Lip.
Lip I think your idea of Wiggins asking for something separate from everyone else for space and quite makes some sense. As someone with ADHD and working with college students with various disabilities I can actually see some legit functional reason for that. I had never thought about how the constant travel would affect me getting my sleep. Because I find it difficult to turn my brain off I can't have other people doing anything around me if I want to fall asleep. Wiggins is clearly an introvert and obviously quirky and particular so maybe some level of OCD? So yeah I could see him having some reasons beyond being a spoiled guy or being a jerk. Who knows. I tend to think Thibs wouldn't be too into having this request for separation either but maybe not.
Quirky is a good word for Wiggins based on what my friend heard from Wiggins' former chef. Introvert is another good word for him. He said that he loves his teammates at his recent press conference announcing the extension. I have no doubt he was sincere. So I don't think he's an arrogant SOB as some might infer from his request. He's always smiling and talking with teammates during games. I just want him to expand his game and blossom into a star. I still think it's possible.
I also got some insight into Glen's relationship with Thibs. While he's not pleased with the results last year (after all, he's a fan as well as an owner), he's not displeased with his choice of Thibs as coach. What he is unhappy about though is Thibs' sideline demeanor, and especially the raw language and barrage of F bombs. Glen is a rather conservative guy and sits right behind Thibs (Lip is pretty close too), and finds him embarrassing much of the time. I learned yesterday that he spoke sharply to him about this over the summer, and told him he needed to act more respectably during games. Let's see if it has an effect...I think it will. Some might say Thibs has his contract, so Glen has no leverage. But Thibs has to have his next contract in mind, so he likely will do what Glen asks. I don't know if this will help the team (although guys like KAT seemed to be bothered at times), but it will definitely improve my enjoyment level when I'm at games!
Oh no! I see it coming, you're setting up the argument that an improved start is because Tibs was reprimanded to change his coaching style! Brilliant move!
By the way, his 3-point shot looked terrific last night in the scrimmage. His form is perfect and the shot is so effortless for him. I can see him becoming a 38-40% three-point shooter.
Duke13 wrote:I also got some insight into Glen's relationship with Thibs. While he's not pleased with the results last year (after all, he's a fan as well as an owner), he's not displeased with his choice of Thibs as coach. What he is unhappy about though is Thibs' sideline demeanor, and especially the raw language and barrage of F bombs. Glen is a rather conservative guy and sits right behind Thibs (Lip is pretty close too), and finds him embarrassing much of the time. I learned yesterday that he spoke sharply to him about this over the summer, and told him he needed to act more respectably during games. Let's see if it has an effect...I think it will. Some might say Thibs has his contract, so Glen has no leverage. But Thibs has to have his next contract in mind, so he likely will do what Glen asks. I don't know if this will help the team (although guys like KAT seemed to be bothered at times), but it will definitely improve my enjoyment level when I'm at games!
Oh no! I see it coming, you're setting up the argument that an improved start is because Tibs was reprimanded to change his coaching style! Brilliant move!
Nah, I actually find Thibs' sideline style more annoying (and offensive to some fans, not me) to fans than instrumental in the Wolves' lack of success last year. In other words, I don't expect any improvement in his behavior to result in a significant increase in wins, but it will add to the enjoyment of many of us season ticket holders.
Changes in Thibs' game management though could significantly help this team. I was surprised that a veteran coach like him would find himself without any remaining timeouts at the end of close games...that hurt us a number of times, and seemed like something a rookie coach would do rather than an experienced one. Also, of course, I think his propensity to burn out his starters is the behavior that most needs to change. There was more than enough statistical evidence last year to support the fallacy of his poor rotation decisions, and I hope he has learned this and trusts his bench more this year. Adding guys like Gorgui and Crawford to the second team has to give him more confidence in resting his starters.
lipoli390 wrote:LST - Interesting info. Thanks for sharing. I'm a bit disturbed by the request for a room separate from and above his teammates. It seems arrogant. But maybe he needs quiet. A friend of mine knows one of Andrew's former personal chefs. Apparently, Wiggins is very, very particular about what he wants and can be a jerk if he doesn't get exactly what he wants. But he still seems like a good guy who is liked by his teammates and coaches. So I'm not worried.
Thanks for the info from both LST and Lip.
Lip I think your idea of Wiggins asking for something separate from everyone else for space and quite makes some sense. As someone with ADHD and working with college students with various disabilities I can actually see some legit functional reason for that. I had never thought about how the constant travel would affect me getting my sleep. Because I find it difficult to turn my brain off I can't have other people doing anything around me if I want to fall asleep. Wiggins is clearly an introvert and obviously quirky and particular so maybe some level of OCD? So yeah I could see him having some reasons beyond being a spoiled guy or being a jerk. Who knows. I tend to think Thibs wouldn't be too into having this request for separation either but maybe not.
Quirky is a good word for Wiggins based on what my friend heard from Wiggins' former chef. Introvert is another good word for him. He said that he loves his teammates at his recent press conference announcing the extension. I have no doubt he was sincere. So I don't think he's an arrogant SOB as some might infer from his request. He's always smiling and talking with teammates during games. I just want him to expand his game and blossom into a star. I still think it's possible.
That's exactly where I am with respect to Wig. My initial reaction was that he was arrogant in making his requests, but that doesn't jive with how I view him or how others describe him. If anything, a little arrogance might actually help him. I sense that Wig is a popular guy on the team, and that his teammates wouldn't begrudge him asking for the moon. I also sense that he may not be the brightest bulb on the team (especially compared to guys like KAT, Crawford, Gorgui and others), and that might explain his naivety in making a silly request like this.
LST your info and thoughts about Glen and Thibs reminded me of Jon K and Souhan talking about when Cheryl Reece dumped Champagne on Glen and Becky celebrating the last Wolves championship. They mention they don't even drink and they thought it was an indication of Reeve's standing with the organization that she could get away with doing something like that which they were pretty sure Glen and Becky may have preferred to not have happen but probably didn't mind too much obviously because of the moment. They also said Glen deserved to get a lot of credit for supporting that franchise espcially putting up the money for Williams arena and paying for air conditioning. They said he wouldn't but Glen could have gone a cheaper route. They suspect he lost money on the season overall with all the additional expenses incurred by having the Lynx displaced by the Target center renovations. That's what he SHOULD be doing as an owner but yeah he should get some credit. I'd be curious if you had any info or thoughts about the Lynx season etc.
I'll be curious to see if Thibs calms down a bit on the cursing. If I was Glen I would tell Thibs do your thing but find some other words to say. This is a business and this team is for the fans and it's clear from stuff I have heard and read (plus info from season ticket holders here) some of them do not enjoy that espcially people with kids. Maybe Thibs does whatever around his nephews but in various interviews last year he really seemed to have a soft spot for them and seemed to like to spend time with them. If I was Glen I might play to that angle in particular. We will see.
I would think a grown man would be embarrassed by his inability to control his language so publically. Yelling at the team is one thing, swearing continuously at a public event is another.
I'll admit I have a soft spot for Thibs tirades as he uses the same collection of swear words I tend to when I'm upset and I find it hilarious to begin with, but I imagine it woud probably be grating for those with season tickets.
