crazysauce wrote:Wiggins and Towns are both soft as hell. Its sad really. Guys like that dont win championships. They are there to collect a paycheck and get their numbers for there next paycheck. Really wish this attitude would rub off on them. I think towns and wiggins need someone to push them. Problem is they are so damn entitled that instead of going out and showing out the cry about it on social media. This is getting entertaining though.
What were the odds that the Wolves would finally end up with two consecutive number 1 picks... and both would be Charmin soft? I'd put it somewhere north of 100%.
On the bright side, once Jimmy is traded we'll then have three teams against which Wiggins will actually give complete effort. Cavs, Raps, and Jimmy's new team. If only we could find a way to have every team in the league piss him off.
Camden wrote:This makes me like and appreciate Jimmy Butler even more, honestly.
Get this, he apparently screamed the entire practice and declared during the scrimmage that he was guarding Towns and "shutting that shit down." Complete savage mode.
It *almost* makes me want the Wolves to just keep Butler and clean house around him.
Seconded. I loved this. I'll take a guy coming in and speaking the truth (while backing it up with action) over the trash that has been played this preseason. This season was going to be one of the worst in Wolves history, with the amount of talent and money on this team we still weren't guaranteed to win 35 games. Might as well keep him at this point and see where it goes
First of all, Jimmy is not a leader and a winner. He's actually a loser and that has been demonstrated time and time again. He didn't step up in the playoffs last year, then checked out on his own flight after the series. His circle of friends are a bunch of thugs, much like he tries to be. He divides rather than rally his team and teammates. He's arrogant to the point he has no idea how good he really is. He sees himself as Charles Barkley, whereas he's a lot closer to Draymond Green, just without the great team around him. Go ahead and applaud him for his childish, selfish display today. I'm not going to.
And regarding Towns and Wiggins, maybe the problem isn't softness. Maybe they just aren't very good. The history of the league is littered with great athletes who weren't great players. Every draft has this type of player that completely busts. Towns and Wiggins aren't busts, but maybe they're not capable of elevating a team. Maybe they are complimentary players whose draft status completely overshadows what they really are. Maybe they just need a different coach to put them in a position to win. I mean Wig was better as a rookie wasn't he?
The whole mess is a joke. And it may make you feel better to get behind one side or the other, but nothing is good about this franchise right now. Not the owner, not the coach, not Butler, not Towns and Wiggins. The whole thing stinks and is an embarrassment.
CoolBreeze44 wrote:First of all, Jimmy is not a leader and a winner. He's actually a loser and that has been demonstrated time and time again. He didn't step up in the playoffs last year, then checked out on his own flight after the series. His circle of friends are a bunch of thugs, much like he tries to be. He divides rather than rally his team and teammates. He's arrogant to the point he has no idea how good he really is. He sees himself as Charles Barkley, whereas he's a lot closer to Draymond Green, just without the great team around him. Go ahead and applaud him for his childish, selfish display today. I'm not going to.
And regarding Towns and Wiggins, maybe the problem isn't softness. Maybe they just aren't very good. The history of the league is littered with great athletes who weren't great players. Every draft has this type of player that completely busts. Towns and Wiggins aren't busts, but maybe they're not capable of elevating a team. Maybe they are complimentary players whose draft status completely overshadows what they really are. Maybe they just need a different coach to put them in a position to win. I mean Wig was better as a rookie wasn't he?
The whole mess is a joke. And it may make you feel better to get behind one side or the other, but nothing is good about this franchise right now. Not the owner, not the coach, not Butler, not Towns and Wiggins. The whole thing stinks and is an embarrassment.
Let's just watch the world burn (or in this case the Wolves). At least we can still warm our hands
CoolBreeze44 wrote:First of all, Jimmy is not a leader and a winner. He's actually a loser and that has been demonstrated time and time again. He didn't step up in the playoffs last year, then checked out on his own flight after the series. His circle of friends are a bunch of thugs, much like he tries to be. He divides rather than rally his team and teammates. He's arrogant to the point he has no idea how good he really is. He sees himself as Charles Barkley, whereas he's a lot closer to Draymond Green, just without the great team around him. Go ahead and applaud him for his childish, selfish display today. I'm not going to.
And regarding Towns and Wiggins, maybe the problem isn't softness. Maybe they just aren't very good. The history of the league is littered with great athletes who weren't great players. Every draft has this type of player that completely busts. Towns and Wiggins aren't busts, but maybe they're not capable of elevating a team. Maybe they are complimentary players whose draft status completely overshadows what they really are. Maybe they just need a different coach to put them in a position to win. I mean Wig was better as a rookie wasn't he?
The whole mess is a joke. And it may make you feel better to get behind one side or the other, but nothing is good about this franchise right now. Not the owner, not the coach, not Butler, not Towns and Wiggins. The whole thing stinks and is an embarrassment.
Let's just watch the world burn (or in this case the Wolves). At least we can still warm our hands
Amen! You've got to have a sense of humor to be a fan of Minnesota pro sports teams!
- Andrew Wiggins is absolutely a bust as far as top overall picks go. He is not a franchise player nor is he even an above average NBA player. Point blank, period.
- You can underrate Jimmy Butler all you want to, but the main difference between a 30-win team and contending for the third-seed in the Western Conference last year was the guy from Tomball. His impact is real on both ends of the court and the numbers illustrate this. The guy is a top-10 player in a star-studded league. That's just the truth of it.
AbeVigodaLive wrote:Butler's sitdown, where he comes across as just a good guy competing... is up at ESPN.
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24952000
The Wolves have to do SOMETHING to offset the Jimmy Butler orchestrated media blitz he's on right now. He's leaving a wide path of destruction in his wake. There's a time and a place to play the "professional" angle... but Butler is being the scorched earth guy AND the consummate pro if he gets to control this story like he has today.
Right now, he's getting his cake... and eating it too. Wiggins and Towns... the future of the team... are left looking like lazy chumps. True or not... that's gonna make them a hard sell for ownership/management when the dust settles. Show some fight for chrissakes, whether on the court or via the media/PR game.
We're in Year 30 of a mostly inept franchise. This isn't good.
Aw shucks, that Jimmys just a lunch pail millionaire. He's a new level of classless. I hope Thibs plays him 40mins/game till he tears his ACL.
Camden wrote:- Andrew Wiggins is absolutely a bust as far as top overall picks go. He is not a franchise player nor is he even an above average NBA player. Point blank, period. Why do you always have to look through the lens of his draft position? Other than that i refuse to get in an argument with you over Wiggins
- You can underrate Jimmy Butler all you want to, but the main difference between a 30-win team and contending for the third-seed in the Western Conference last year was the guy from Tomball. His impact is real on both ends of the court and the numbers illustrate this. The guy is a top-10 player in a star-studded league. That's just the truth of it.
You're a beauty. Contending for the 3rd seed, hahahahaha. We made the playoffs by winning the last game of the season in OT. And you know why? Because Butler got hurt like he always does. No availability means less ability. That's the truth. Top 10? Please.
Even though I think Butler is an idiot and his hubris doesn't match his performance, I don't think him practicing is a bad thing. Our on court demeanor was shit the preseason so far. KAT and Wigs need be pissed as hell right now because they haven't lived up to their potential. Use it. Then laugh at Jimmy during his next injury and failure in the next team he's on.
thedoper wrote:Even though I think Butler is an idiot and his hubris doesn't match his performance, I don't think him practicing is a bad thing. Our on court demeanor was shit the preseason so far. KAT and Wigs need be pissed as hell right now because they haven't lived up to their potential. Use it. Then laugh at Jimmy during his next injury and failure in the next team he's on.
Neither of them have shown so much as a hint of being able to laugh at Jimmy. Yeah Jimmy's injury prone, but maybe if the boy wonders gave 100% each game and in practice they'd be a little less likely to play 82 games every season themselves.
Thats not to say I like Jimmy's attitude, but I don't care for theirs either. If only they all could meet in the middle we'd have something!
