Jimmy Butler Trade Ideas

[worldK]

Time to trade jimmy to houston for 4 unprotected 1st round picks and knight/chriss expirings and option to either swap picks in year 2,4 and 6 or get their 2nd round pick. Houston is not off to a good start, even if they added jimmy, they will still need 20 games to adjust with 3 iso ball players. They are not going to be very good after 4 years. Even if the picks are in the 20's, they still have good value.

See if we can trade the expirings of knight/chriss for someone useful.

Try to work out a deal that sends teague to orlando or phoenix.

Fire thibs and go all in on the rebuild.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Eric Gordon + Nene Hilario for Jimmy Butler works financially, and basketball-wise. Taking back Brandon Knight is a non-starter as his deal alone is worth one, maybe two first-round picks. Wolves have no reason to accept any trade in which they're putting bad money on the books. That's not how this works when trading premium talent.

[TheFuture]

Eric Gordon + Nene Hilario for Jimmy Butler works financially, and basketball-wise. Taking back Brandon Knight is a non-starter as his deal alone is worth one, maybe two first-round picks. Wolves have no reason to accept any trade in which they're putting bad money on the books. That's not how this works when trading premium talent.

Agreed.

You either get a quality player from Houston in Gordon plus the picks or you go deal with Miami.

Don't gift a team a contending force without having them make a serious sacrifice to their immediate rotation.

[Lipoli390]

Eric Gordon + Nene Hilario for Jimmy Butler works financially, and basketball-wise. Taking back Brandon Knight is a non-starter as his deal alone is worth one, maybe two first-round picks. Wolves have no reason to accept any trade in which they're putting bad money on the books. That's not how this works when trading premium talent.

Agreed.

You either get a quality player from Houston in Gordon plus the picks or you go deal with Miami.

Don't gift a team a contending force without having them make a serious sacrifice to their immediate rotation.

Take a look at how at Gordon's performance so far this season. Then look back on his career, especially games played. When you factor in his horrendously poor durability and the two years left on his contract, taking him in a trade is more akin to Brandon Knight than a valueable acquisition. Moreover, if we're going to accept a deal centered around 4 first round picks over 7 years, then we're talking about a re-started/re-build. So Gordon stays healthy and plays like he did last season, he'd help us win some games -- which is not what we want if we're truly in rebuild mode. There ar good arguments for making the deal with Houston for the 4 picks just as there are arguments for doing a deal with the Heat for Josh Richardson and other assets. But regardless of which way the Wolves go, the deal has to be internally consistent - i.e., we're either doing a rebuild around picks or we're doing a re-tool around players.

[Lipoli390]

Milwaukee looks damn good and they have a 5-0 record thus far to prove it. Toronto looks like the class of the East at 6-0. Even Detroit looks a lot better. Wow, the head coach really does matter. What a shock. The bottom line is this. At some point you'd think that Miami will be motivated to up their ante for Butler. And I would think that even the Sixers and Celtics might decide they need to go after Butler to enhance their chances of winning the East.

The asset the Wolves should covet the most is Sacramento's 2019 first round pick (top 1 protected) that Boston owns. Another asset that should interest the Wolves is the Grizzlies' 2019 first round pick, which Boston also owns. It's top 8 protected for 2019, top 6 protected for 2021 and unprotected for 2022. Both picks are likely to be top 10 lottery picks and the Sacramento pick will likely be top 5. The Wolves should also have a keen interest in the Sixers' Saric and Fultz as well as the 2019 second round picks of Sacramento and Chicago, both of which the Sixers own. Another asset that should interest the Wolves is Miami's 2021 unprotected 1st round pick, which the Sixers own.

[KG4Ever]

Screw Gordon, I am taking Knight and getting better picks.

Eric Gordon + Nene Hilario for Jimmy Butler works financially, and basketball-wise. Taking back Brandon Knight is a non-starter as his deal alone is worth one, maybe two first-round picks. Wolves have no reason to accept any trade in which they're putting bad money on the books. That's not how this works when trading premium talent.

Agreed.

You either get a quality player from Houston in Gordon plus the picks or you go deal with Miami.

Don't gift a team a contending force without having them make a serious sacrifice to their immediate rotation.

Sorry, but I got to disagree with this logic. Screw Gordon, I prefer Knight if we get better picks as a result. The key is the protection or lack thereof on the picks. If we go this route, we are taking a step back to go at least two steps forward in the future. Gordon does nothing for me. Nothing. Its better that we tank another year or two so we can reload and get rid of the doofus named Thibs and get young talent to replace all the fossils that Thibs assembled.

[WildWolf2813]

I don't even like Gordon. He'll turn right back into the injury prone pumpkin he was in New Orleans

[crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]]

"Thibodeau has reportedly not been as involved in trade discussions, as Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor told the Minneapolis Star Tribune he has asked Thibodeau to focus on his coaching duties.

Taylor and Wolves general manager Scott Layden are handling the trade talks, Taylor said."


http://amicohoops.net/nba-rumors-miami-heat-minnesota-timberwolves-jimmy-butler/

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Eric Gordon + Nene Hilario for Jimmy Butler works financially, and basketball-wise. Taking back Brandon Knight is a non-starter as his deal alone is worth one, maybe two first-round picks. Wolves have no reason to accept any trade in which they're putting bad money on the books. That's not how this works when trading premium talent.

Agreed.

You either get a quality player from Houston in Gordon plus the picks or you go deal with Miami.

Don't gift a team a contending force without having them make a serious sacrifice to their immediate rotation.

Take a look at how at Gordon's performance so far this season. Then look back on his career, especially games played. When you factor in his horrendously poor durability and the two years left on his contract, taking him in a trade is more akin to Brandon Knight than a valueable acquisition. Moreover, if we're going to accept a deal centered around 4 first round picks over 7 years, then we're talking about a re-started/re-build. So Gordon stays healthy and plays like he did last season, he'd help us win some games -- which is not what we want if we're truly in rebuild mode. There ar good arguments for making the deal with Houston for the 4 picks just as there are arguments for doing a deal with the Heat for Josh Richardson and other assets. But regardless of which way the Wolves go, the deal has to be internally consistent - i.e., we're either doing a rebuild around picks or we're doing a re-tool around players.

Take a look at how he's played the last three seasons. He's been consistently good and at worst he's a reliable volume three-point shooting threat. The guy has actual value in this league whereas Brandon Knight is a negative asset. The Wolves can and should stay away from him.

HOWEVER, the Wolves would be wise to demand Gordon be included for the reason that he's an easy player to flip before or at the trade deadline, or even in the summer before the draft, for something valuable in return. This is an easy concept to grasp considering the precedence placed on outside shooting.

Lip, Gordon only has this year and next year remaining on his contract at $14M. That is quite manageable in today's NBA and arguably a value contract given how he's played in recent seasons.

Lastly, Gordon is a good player, but he is not adding additional wins to this team -- not with this team's defense, and he would only add to that embarrassment. The Wolves even with Jimmy Butler are struggling to win games and Gordon is a far cry from All-NBA level.

Again, I would like for the posters in this forum to be much more creative [while maintaining realism] than it's been in recent weeks. Very inside-the-box when that's perhaps why the Wolves are even in this situation.

[kekgeek]

Screw Gordon, I am taking Knight and getting better picks.

Eric Gordon + Nene Hilario for Jimmy Butler works financially, and basketball-wise. Taking back Brandon Knight is a non-starter as his deal alone is worth one, maybe two first-round picks. Wolves have no reason to accept any trade in which they're putting bad money on the books. That's not how this works when trading premium talent.

Agreed.

You either get a quality player from Houston in Gordon plus the picks or you go deal with Miami.

Don't gift a team a contending force without having them make a serious sacrifice to their immediate rotation.

Sorry, but I got to disagree with this logic. Screw Gordon, I prefer Knight if we get better picks as a result. The key is the protection or lack thereof on the picks. If we go this route, we are taking a step back to go at least two steps forward in the future. Gordon does nothing for me. Nothing. Its better that we tank another year or two so we can reload and get rid of the doofus named Thibs and get young talent to replace all the fossils that Thibs assembled.

There can't be protections on the picks outside of the last pick because they can't roll over