2016-2017 around the league thread

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Here is something depressing. After a couple years being joined in the cellar of the NBA by the Lakers, they have now surpassed us. They won handily again tonight and are 6-4.

I'm getting sick and tired of seeing teams get bad and rebuild successfully - sometimes multiple times like the Blazers - while we just keep staying bad for 10+ years. Add the Lakers to the list of teams that were better than us, then got worse than us, then quickly got better than us again.

Other people have mentioned it, but you are seeing the difference between being young everywhere vs offsetting youth with vets. They have Deng, we have Bazz. They have Williams, we have Tyus and Dunn. Our second unit is Tyus, Rush, Bazz, Belly, Aldrich. Tyus and Belly are second year guys. Bazz is in his 3rd year and Rush and Aldrich are support vets and not guys you can leave in at the end of games. We just don't have any good, consistent vets to help out our youth like they do.

I hear you Khans, although we have some vets on our roster too.

I don't know....regardless of the logic involved, I'm just freakin' tired of seeing other teams rebuild successfully multiple times while we continue to be bottom feeders year after year.

[Lipoli390]

I see the Wolves relative youth as the reason no one should have expected them to be title contenders this season. But I don't accept youth as the definitive explanation for how poorly the Wolves have played thus far this season. This team played far better the end of last season when they were even younger. Third quarter breakdowns don't strike me as the product of youth. And it's not as if this is a team of 19-year old rookies. Four of our five core young guys (Wiggins, LaVine, Gorgui and Bazz) have two full NBA seasons under their belts. KAT was last season's rookie of the year. Ricky, Aldrich and Rush have been in the League for quite a while. Dunn's a rookie, but comes with 4 years of college experience.

Again, I'm not suggesting this team is ready to contend for a title, but age or inexperience simply fails to explain or justify losing 4 of their first 6 games, including losses to the Nets on the road and Nuggets at home. Instead, I think there's something missing in this team's adaptation to the new coaching staff. I'm not prepared to blame Thibs and his assistants or label them failures. It's way too early for that. Rather, I'm more inclined to attribute the Wolves horrible start to the transition to an entirely new coaching staff that differs substantially from last season's coaching staff in substance and style. So I see November as an adjustment period and, while frustrated, I'm not ready to push the panic button. But I do expect to see a major turn-around beginning shortly after Thanksgiving. If not, then I'll begin taking Thibs to task and return to my earlier view that Thibs was not the best choice for this team.

[Monster]

I just watched some highlights of Derozen this season. Man he looks so comfortable with the ball and he isn't just ball hogging he is giving up the ball to teammates also. I watched a clip of him at USC. Fun player.

Hey remember that Kevin Love guy that played here in Minny? It looks like he plays for the Cavs now. Those 3 guys there are putting up some serious numbers.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

LOL, grind house lives on.....Memphis up on Dallas 36-29.....at the half!

I watched a little of Golden State vs. Boston. Boston had a 3rd quarter we're all too familiar with.

And Draymond Green bugs the hell out of me still. God I hope they go down. I don't know who or how, but I hope they go down.

[Porckchop]

I can't stand Golden State and was really disappointed that Durant made the move . I think all the negativity directed at Durant is going drive him to be an even better player tho. He's got a Lil bit of that edge to him that most of the greats have had.

[thedoper]

The Knicks are 500 on Porzingis 31 and 9 boards. I'm rooting for contrarian Jackson all the way. The media seems to hate him generally but I think he's moving that team in the right direction despite Noah being done.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Watching the Nuggets/Bulls game... Can anyone guess why I'm upset right now?

[Coolbreeze44]

Watching the Nuggets/Bulls game... Can anyone guess why I'm upset right now?

I hear you - I'm with you

[Monster]

Watching the Nuggets/Bulls game... Can anyone guess why I'm upset right now?

I hear you - I'm with you

This draft class hasn't really put a stamp on the league so far. Of course it hurts Simmons hasn't even played yet but yeah. Murray was the guy I was most excited about at the spot we were at. I hope Dunn works hard on his shot. He could be a nice complimentary player he doesn't have to be a star to be a relatively good pick. We will see. It's early

[Porckchop]

I liked Murray too but I was definitely a Dunn guy. We owe Dunn some patience.
Didn't Murray start the season missing his first 18 shots or something?