thedoper wrote:Does the Korver deal mean we could get a late first for Ricky? I hope so.
Depends if a title contending team has a place for Rubio.
Every team can find room for a three point sharpshooter. Rubio is a different animal. I don't see him helping out contenders as quickly and seamlessly as a guy like Korver who can jump in immediately and wait for the ball to make a huge impact.
thedoper wrote:Does the Korver deal mean we could get a late first for Ricky? I hope so.
Depends if a title contending team has a place for Rubio.
Every team can find room for a three point sharpshooter. Rubio is a different animal. I don't see him helping out contenders as quickly and seamlessly as a guy like Korver who can jump in immediately and wait for the ball to make a huge impact.
So... no.
I've maintained that Ricky would be a great back up PG. I think this is realistically his better role. I think it would take him landing on a championship caliber team to be ok with it. But his value may be so down right now that teams don't even see him in that role.
thedoper wrote:Does the Korver deal mean we could get a late first for Ricky? I hope so.
Depends if a title contending team has a place for Rubio.
Every team can find room for a three point sharpshooter. Rubio is a different animal. I don't see him helping out contenders as quickly and seamlessly as a guy like Korver who can jump in immediately and wait for the ball to make a huge impact.
So... no.
I've maintained that Ricky would be a great back up PG. I think this is realistically his better role. I think it would take him landing on a championship caliber team to be ok with it. But his value may be so down right now that teams don't even see him in that role.
Maybe. It would depend on his teammates, obviously. Pair him with capable scorers and he could unleash some good things on a talented second unit. Obviously, his impact on a thin team already struggling to score could be limited a bit. Defensively, he could be really disruptive in brief bursts...
MIN: Ricky Rubio (PG; $14.25M in 2017-18, 14.8M in 2018-19)
DAL: Wesley Matthews (SG/SF; $17.9M in 2017-18, $18.6M in 2018-19)
Reasons why?
MIN: Kris Dunn provides similar things as Ricky Rubio, though lesser in some areas (facilitating, perimeter shooting) and superior in others (perimeter defense, finishing at the rim). The Wolves also need a third wing that can play with both starters -- Zach LaVine and Andrew Wiggins -- during stretches. Their bench gets a much-needed scoring punch as well as another potent three-point shooter on the roster. Matthews has always been regarded as a two-way player. There is some risk with him when you consider his injury history and recent fall off in shooting efficiency from the floor, but it could also be a great move for all things mentioned above.
DAL: The Mavs have been linked to Ricky Rubio trade speculation for some time now, and I expect that to remain true as Deron Williams plays out the last season of his contract. They have some nice pieces, such as Harrison Barnes, Dwight Powell, Justin Anderson, Seth Curry and backup guards Devin Harris and J.J. Barea. Dealing Matthews opens up more minutes for the youngster Anderson, and Rubio provides insurance should Dallas miss out on top point guard prospects Markelle Fultz and Lonzo Ball.
Salary-wise, it's essentially a wash with Matthews making roughly $4M more in 2018-19, but they both expire at the same time.
Great get for them. Cost them a protected first-rounder. Unfortunately, that probably means they'll re-sign him too.
The report I read said Mike Dunleavy will be moved to a third team. I wouldn't mind that pickup at all.
I was thinking the same thing. I've always liked him. Is he still the effective player he used to be? Thibs may not play him but I'd be interested to see him here if he is healthy and able to contribute. If the Hawks would pay a 2nd rounder for us to take him that would be even better. My guess is another team will get him if he can still play.
The Mavericks were really high on Matthews, obviously just 18 months ago. He sucked balls last season returning from a very serious injury. But he has shown improvement this season by shooting 37.5% on a career high 7.8 attempts per game.
I don't know whether he's slipped defensively. And I don't know how much Dallas digs superior passing/horrific shooting PGs. But I do know how valuable 3-and-D guys are around the league.
MIN: Ricky Rubio (PG; $14.25M in 2017-18, 14.8M in 2018-19)
DAL: Wesley Matthews (SG/SF; $17.9M in 2017-18, $18.6M in 2018-19)
Reasons why?
MIN: Kris Dunn provides similar things as Ricky Rubio, though lesser in some areas (facilitating, perimeter shooting) and superior in others (perimeter defense, finishing at the rim). The Wolves also need a third wing that can play with both starters -- Zach LaVine and Andrew Wiggins -- during stretches. Their bench gets a much-needed scoring punch as well as another potent three-point shooter on the roster. Matthews has always been regarded as a two-way player. There is some risk with him when you consider his injury history and recent fall off in shooting efficiency from the floor, but it could also be a great move for all things mentioned above.
DAL: The Mavs have been linked to Ricky Rubio trade speculation for some time now, and I expect that to remain true as Deron Williams plays out the last season of his contract. They have some nice pieces, such as Harrison Barnes, Dwight Powell, Justin Anderson, Seth Curry and backup guards Devin Harris and J.J. Barea. Dealing Matthews opens up more minutes for the youngster Anderson, and Rubio provides insurance should Dallas miss out on top point guard prospects Markelle Fultz and Lonzo Ball.
Salary-wise, it's essentially a wash with Matthews making roughly $4M more in 2018-19, but they both expire at the same time.
I'd rather have an expiring and try and make a bigger splash in FA. I don't think we're saving this season and I'm not sure Matthews would be capable of that. That being said I wouldn't hate that deal if they made it.
MIN: Ricky Rubio (PG; $14.25M in 2017-18, 14.8M in 2018-19)
DAL: Wesley Matthews (SG/SF; $17.9M in 2017-18, $18.6M in 2018-19)
Reasons why?
MIN: Kris Dunn provides similar things as Ricky Rubio, though lesser in some areas (facilitating, perimeter shooting) and superior in others (perimeter defense, finishing at the rim). The Wolves also need a third wing that can play with both starters -- Zach LaVine and Andrew Wiggins -- during stretches. Their bench gets a much-needed scoring punch as well as another potent three-point shooter on the roster. Matthews has always been regarded as a two-way player. There is some risk with him when you consider his injury history and recent fall off in shooting efficiency from the floor, but it could also be a great move for all things mentioned above.
DAL: The Mavs have been linked to Ricky Rubio trade speculation for some time now, and I expect that to remain true as Deron Williams plays out the last season of his contract. They have some nice pieces, such as Harrison Barnes, Dwight Powell, Justin Anderson, Seth Curry and backup guards Devin Harris and J.J. Barea. Dealing Matthews opens up more minutes for the youngster Anderson, and Rubio provides insurance should Dallas miss out on top point guard prospects Markelle Fultz and Lonzo Ball.
Salary-wise, it's essentially a wash with Matthews making roughly $4M more in 2018-19, but they both expire at the same time.
I'd do that deal, but I might be in the minority. I think the further he gets from the injury the better he'll get and be a solid 6th man for us who can play 2 and 3 off the bench which we desperately need. Also he can't kill us if he's on our team right?
Dallas says no. If they want to sell off Matthews off for something I bet there would be teams willing to give up a couple of first rounders or something more valuable than Rubio to get him. The Cavs gave up a first rounder for Korver who is a nice complimentary piece who makes less but Matthews has some nice value. I bet a team like Boston would be interested and willing to give up some young players.
