The new NBA I'm always whining about...

[AbeVigodaLive]

The one where year-round gossip trumps on-court stuff... to the detriment of non-destination teams.

Irving is eligible for a four-year, $107 million extension, but that would be $80 million less than what he could earn if he waits until the summer of 2019 and re-signs with Boston after opting out of the final year of his current pact.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23773489/kyrie-irving-says-signing-contract-extension-boston-celtics-make-sense

Financially, players have less and less incentive to stick around with the same team. But with free agency gossip being bigger than the game sometimes among casual fans... it's here for awhile.

TMZ wins.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

The problem comes in with accolades being able to determine financial reward. The whole reason it's better to wait is if he lands on an all-NBA team or a couple other qualifiers next season it kicks up a significant amount. He is betting on himself and his health, but there isn't enough risk for him to turn this down when there's a high probability it's still on the table a year from now while still having the chance to make it a bigger offer with his play. Accolades that involve voters just shouldn't have any part in contact negotiations. The max should just be set at a percentage of the cap and you either pay it or you don't. Scaling it based on years played or based on accolades is dumb. There's too many levels of max contracts. Simplify it and this isn't a problem.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Looking into this further... so can Boston still offer up more money than any other team next year when he's on the "open market?"

How much more?

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

Looking into this further... so can Boston still offer up more money than any other team next year when he's on the "open market?"

How much more?

They are the only team that can offer the 5th year so whatever that going rate scales to (probably around 30+ million).

[Monster]

Looking into this further... so can Boston still offer up more money than any other team next year when he's on the "open market?"

How much more?

They are the only team that can offer the 5th year so whatever that going rate scales to (probably around 30+ million).

This tweet covers Kyrie's options. Even if he was absolutely committed tot he Celtics it doesn't make sense financially to do anything very soon.

https://twitter.com/albertnahmad/status/1006648907064061952?s=21

[kekgeek]

The one where year-round gossip trumps on-court stuff... to the detriment of non-destination teams.

Irving is eligible for a four-year, $107 million extension, but that would be $80 million less than what he could earn if he waits until the summer of 2019 and re-signs with Boston after opting out of the final year of his current pact.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23773489/kyrie-irving-says-signing-contract-extension-boston-celtics-make-sense

Financially, players have less and less incentive to stick around with the same team. But with free agency gossip being bigger than the game sometimes among casual fans... it's here for awhile.

TMZ wins.

I would say players have more financial incentive to stick with their team but sticking with their team really fucks over their chance at winning a title. It is really hard to build a championship caliber team when a player gets a super max like Wall or Westbrook. Just not enough cap space. It sucks for teams and it will suck for the Wolves when they have to make a decision on Kat in the distant future. Is any player outside of LBJ and Maybe Durant worth a super max (not really sure)

[Hicks123 [enjin:6700838]]

The one where year-round gossip trumps on-court stuff... to the detriment of non-destination teams.

Irving is eligible for a four-year, $107 million extension, but that would be $80 million less than what he could earn if he waits until the summer of 2019 and re-signs with Boston after opting out of the final year of his current pact.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23773489/kyrie-irving-says-signing-contract-extension-boston-celtics-make-sense

Financially, players have less and less incentive to stick around with the same team. But with free agency gossip being bigger than the game sometimes among casual fans... it's here for awhile.

TMZ wins.

I would say players have more financial incentive to stick with their team but sticking with their team really fucks over their chance at winning a title. It is really hard to build a championship caliber team when a player gets a super max like Wall or Westbrook. Just not enough cap space. It sucks for teams and it will suck for the Wolves when they have to make a decision on Kat in the distant future. Is any player outside of LBJ and Maybe Durant worth a super max (not really sure)

This is a great question. The answer is probably no. Only a player that can single-handedly bring you legitimate playoff success (ala the guys you mention) are worthy. But in the end, the thing that drives me crazy about NBA contracts isn't what the superstars make...it's what marginal rotation players make. When teams stupidly pay role-players $10-25MM....this is what inevitably kills a teams ability to compete. Why? Because not only do these players rarely contribute to any level of team success (there certainly are exceptions), but they become untradeable as well. Teams need to learn that regardless of what the "market" is saying at the time, you simply can't hand out $25MM deals to guys like Batum and Barnes. Nor can you afford to pay guys like Evan Turner and Crabbe $15-20MM. These deals simply never work out. You simply can't work around those contracts and maintain success. Not sure teams will ever learn.....pay superstars like superstars, and everyone else gets the scraps.