TheFuture wrote:60WinTim wrote:LOL...
PS. Future -- If I am not mistaken, Thibs has not made a single off-season move you like!
That's correct, I have not liked a single move. I accept the Butler trade, and realize that we did come out winning that trade. Didn't like it at first, have slightly warmed up to it. But I firmly believe we come out in 2-3 years regretting this route.
The subsequent Ricky deal, that was made "necessary" because of the Butler trade,I didn't and don't like. Again, I understand why Thibs made the deal, but it wasn't "necessary". When you dig into Teague you will find that his outside shooting is also a question mark. Which is the reason we targeted him, yes? Where he makes his money is in the mid range (kind of like Ricky) in the pick and roll, but I thought the idea was to have the ball in Butlers hands? So he is slightly better at outside shootinging than Ricky. Yet, he is nowhere near the gifted passer or defender that Ricky is. It isn't even a lateral move, it was a downgrade for 5mil more, for a season more. Look at all the advanced sites and they tout Ricky as a borderline allstar entering his prime, and Teague as a league average point guard.
The Taj Gibson signing was terrible. Complete bullshit. Spin it whatever way you want, but it is not a good signing. Butler called Taj, wanted him. Thibs called Taj, wanted him. Taj got paid. Another country club move.
Jamal Crawford is not what we needed with our RE. Is he a terrible player? No. But he isn't very good anymore. He is a ballstopper. We needed a defender or sharpshooter with that exception. He is neither. Thibs is going to be staggering our "big 4". They will have the ball in their hands. Crawford needs the ball to be effective. Again, 41% and 35% are his career averages. At the minimum? Sure, sign him. With our only exception and chance at signing someone without a trade? Hell no. He's an end of the bench guy, not a sixth man anymore. Shabazz should have been kept instead.
As you can see, I do not like any of the deals. Only the Butler trade is impactful. The rest are lateral or negative. There is too much praise around here just because moves are being made. I argue that none of them are the correct move.
Good stuff Future. While I don't necessarily agree with everything here, I do agree with a lot. You make some good points and its led to some healthy debate.