AbeVigodaLive wrote:When the Wolves went out and nabbed Cassell and Sprewell, I didn't think about the long-term ramifications of a move to land two mercurial veteran players on limited deals.
But I enjoyed the best season in Wolves history (by far!) anyway.
I understand the angst about the Wolves future. Personally, I didn't see LaVine part of that, so I'm ok to see him not part of it. Same with Dunn. As long as the Wolves win FINALLY...
... and keep two of the league's most promising players? Sign me up.
Sitting next to you up the front of the bus on this one Abe. Enjoying the sun on the back of my neck and the breeze through my hair on this journey.
I still love the future of this team with Wiggins and Towns. But man, the next couple of years look like fun to me.
Disclaimer: I am completely conditioned to progressively downgrading my expectations during the season as we underperform my optimism... but this year... maybe this year...
This may finally be the year we get off the record player. I started to believe life was simply a year on repeat.
Which album was playing?
Led Zeppelin: Houses of the Holy
Nice. I take it the needle is stuck on the first track of that album?
It did! How could you guess?!? Every year I guess I was "lucky" to have the needle jump every once in awhile to The second and third tracks, Rain Song and Over the Hills and Far Away.
TheFuture wrote:Haha as am I Monster. One of my favorites.
Well it's my first time listening to the album! Thanks for mentioning it. This album would be great on my old record player.
Let us know if you make it to Dancing Days without a hitch....could be a good harbinger of things to come.
Or you could be like Tim, who simply puts the needle right on Dancing Days from the get go.....
Well...it took a bunch of times to get the Hoopla app to let me select the album and download it. After that it was smooth sailing but I did have plenty of frustration and said some bad words before getting to that point. It was all worth it. Just finished the album. I'll be listening to it again a few times this week.
Q12543 wrote:Abe, I'd share your optimism if every other team in the West didn't just get a shit ton better too (Ok, Utah and the Clippers took a hit, but they are still very good teams).
Oh. Don't get me wrong. There's no guarantee that they even make the playoffs.
But we will be seeing good basketball for once... which is a long time coming. Change your face. Enjoy!
PorkChop wrote:Keep playing for the future and your current best players will be gone and the cycle will start over again.
I agree it's time to start winning!
I am 100% Pork Chop!!!
The Wolves accumulated enough assets that they were able to make a key move (Butler) without giving up their two most promising and talented players (KAT and Wiggins). The clock is ticking on this once in a lifetime Wolves opportunity to be good. So go for it!
Abe, if I'm missing the point of your thread, let me know...it wouldn't be the first time my comprehension skills came up short :).
I think you're saying "Why are we being critical of Thibs' moves just because they might hurt us down the road? After a decade and a half of losing basketball, can't we just enjoy the ride now that things are looking up?" Fair point, but I would counter with this: Why can't we have both...both winning now and building for the future? That's what the franchises we admire do.
The Butler deal already made us a very good team...I don't think anyone disputes that. Heck, Vegas has us as the 4th shortest odds in the West to win the NBA championship! But it's Thibs' subsequent moves that many of us question, as they seem to neither help us "win now" nor "build for the future".
The Rubio/Teague deal gives Teague a third year, which will force thibs to make some tough Harden-like decisions in 2019-20 while not adding much (if anything) to our ability to win now. Bad deal, and Thibs should be criticized for that.
And while I like the shortness of the Gibson deal, it looks like it may have hurt Thibs' ability to make some deals that could have helped us much more this year. Again, bad deal.
While I am on board with the title of your thread and am also looking forward to the 2018 season, I find everything Thibs has done since the A+ Butler move to be worthy of criticism.