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To think this guy turned down a four-year 88 million-dollar extension to re-sign with an actual playoff team less than a year ago what was he thinking? And then to let his agent leak that it would take even more cash to play under Thibs? My petty side is having a hard time not laughing at his thought process and subsequent ending point
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BloopOracle wrote:To think this guy turned down a four-year 88 million-dollar extension to re-sign with an actual playoff team less than a year ago what was he thinking? And then to let his agent leak that it would take even more cash to play under Thibs? My petty side is having a hard time not laughing at his thought process and subsequent ending point


Lol keep in mind D Rose is still out there wondering when his max deal will come through.
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Sure Hill would be a better fit. The big issue is his health. You can't count on the guy to stay healthy. Teague meanwhile played though an injury and still had a plenty effective season and having a terrific season shooting the ball at all ranges on the floor. Plus you have to wonder about the guy when he turned down all that money probably turned down a chance to play for the Wolves (and other fairly good teams) to end up taking money to play for a Kings team that while is making respectable moves isn't likely to be winning 40 games this year. That raises some questions in my mind.

I don't really get the angst here. Personally the Randolph deal shows that the market for guys like him and Taj were there and Lip was thinking Randolph would sign for much less. Maybe on a better team I guess.
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Hill has missed 80 games the last 3year and teague has missed 12 in the same time frame. Hill also 3 years older
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monsterpile wrote:Sure Hill would be a better fit. The big issue is his health. You can't count on the guy to stay healthy. Teague meanwhile played though an injury and still had a plenty effective season and having a terrific season shooting the ball at all ranges on the floor. Plus you have to wonder about the guy when he turned down all that money probably turned down a chance to play for the Wolves (and other fairly good teams) to end up taking money to play for a Kings team that while is making respectable moves isn't likely to be winning 40 games this year. That raises some questions in my mind.

I don't really get the angst here. Personally the Randolph deal shows that the market for guys like him and Taj were there and Lip was thinking Randolph would sign for much less. Maybe on a better team I guess.

That's the thing. There was all this talk about how the Butler acquisition would attract good free agents. Ones that wanted to win who maybe wouldn't push for every last cent. Instead many of us are left feeling we overpaid with no great signings to show for it. (I wouldn't consider Taj or Teague to be great signings)
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khans2k5 wrote:
BloopOracle wrote:To think this guy turned down a four-year 88 million-dollar extension to re-sign with an actual playoff team less than a year ago what was he thinking? And then to let his agent leak that it would take even more cash to play under Thibs? My petty side is having a hard time not laughing at his thought process and subsequent ending point


Lol keep in mind D Rose is still out there wondering when his max deal will come through.


I genuinely wish nobody signs him. That would make free agency a win for me no matter what.

I also saw a report where players weren't accepting offers early in free agency even with their agents saying that they needed to take them as the offers would really go down in value after the first two days. The players cant seem to wrap their head around the fact that last year was unprecedented, and likely will never happen again. Mozgov, Deng, and trash got paid, I must be worth 20mil +. Nope.
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monsterpile wrote:Sure Hill would be a better fit. The big issue is his health. You can't count on the guy to stay healthy. Teague meanwhile played though an injury and still had a plenty effective season and having a terrific season shooting the ball at all ranges on the floor. Plus you have to wonder about the guy when he turned down all that money probably turned down a chance to play for the Wolves (and other fairly good teams) to end up taking money to play for a Kings team that while is making respectable moves isn't likely to be winning 40 games this year. That raises some questions in my mind.

I don't really get the angst here. Personally the Randolph deal shows that the market for guys like him and Taj were there and Lip was thinking Randolph would sign for much less. Maybe on a better team I guess.


I also like what the Kings have done post-Cousins. They were a laughing stock, but man Vlade has really shown to be making the most of it:
Hill/Fox/Mason
Hield/Temple
Jackson/Richardson
Skal/Randolph/Giles
WCS/Koufos/Papagiannis

Lots of potential there, and can really let Giles move along slowly. They will be fun to watch/play against.
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TheGrey08 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:Sure Hill would be a better fit. The big issue is his health. You can't count on the guy to stay healthy. Teague meanwhile played though an injury and still had a plenty effective season and having a terrific season shooting the ball at all ranges on the floor. Plus you have to wonder about the guy when he turned down all that money probably turned down a chance to play for the Wolves (and other fairly good teams) to end up taking money to play for a Kings team that while is making respectable moves isn't likely to be winning 40 games this year. That raises some questions in my mind.

I don't really get the angst here. Personally the Randolph deal shows that the market for guys like him and Taj were there and Lip was thinking Randolph would sign for much less. Maybe on a better team I guess.

That's the thing. There was all this talk about how the Butler acquisition would attract good free agents. Ones that wanted to win who maybe wouldn't push for every last cent. Instead many of us are left feeling we overpaid with no great signings to show for it. (I wouldn't consider Taj or Teague to be great signings)


We didn't have the cap space. Even if we didn't trade ricky we still didn't have the money to add Lowry or Milsap. You can an argument that Taj and teague are the best 2 free agent signings in wolves history. I know that is sad but it might be not to far from the truth
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TheFuture wrote:
khans2k5 wrote:
BloopOracle wrote:To think this guy turned down a four-year 88 million-dollar extension to re-sign with an actual playoff team less than a year ago what was he thinking? And then to let his agent leak that it would take even more cash to play under Thibs? My petty side is having a hard time not laughing at his thought process and subsequent ending point


Lol keep in mind D Rose is still out there wondering when his max deal will come through.


I genuinely wish nobody signs him. That would make free agency a win for me no matter what.

I also saw a report where players weren't accepting offers early in free agency even with their agents saying that they needed to take them as the offers would really go down in value after the first two days. The players cant seem to wrap their head around the fact that last year was unprecedented, and likely will never happen again. Mozgov, Deng, and trash got paid, I must be worth 20mil +. Nope.


These guys really are stupid if they thought their value wouldn't go down as more and more cap space left the market. Even better for us though because there are still a lot of guys left and not a ton of money. Our two year room exception is gonna look better and better as the days go by.
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kekgeek1 wrote:
TheGrey08 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:Sure Hill would be a better fit. The big issue is his health. You can't count on the guy to stay healthy. Teague meanwhile played though an injury and still had a plenty effective season and having a terrific season shooting the ball at all ranges on the floor. Plus you have to wonder about the guy when he turned down all that money probably turned down a chance to play for the Wolves (and other fairly good teams) to end up taking money to play for a Kings team that while is making respectable moves isn't likely to be winning 40 games this year. That raises some questions in my mind.

I don't really get the angst here. Personally the Randolph deal shows that the market for guys like him and Taj were there and Lip was thinking Randolph would sign for much less. Maybe on a better team I guess.

That's the thing. There was all this talk about how the Butler acquisition would attract good free agents. Ones that wanted to win who maybe wouldn't push for every last cent. Instead many of us are left feeling we overpaid with no great signings to show for it. (I wouldn't consider Taj or Teague to be great signings)


We didn't have the cap space. Even if we didn't trade ricky we still didn't have the money to add Lowry or Milsap. You can an argument that Taj and teague are the best 2 free agent signings in wolves history. I know that is sad but it might be not to far from the truth

I wasn't saying they were bad signings, just don't like the value in those signings. Also a great signing doesn't require a top notch talent IMO, just to clarify further.
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