Rubio having a career year statistically

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Rubio having a career year statistically

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It's sort of ironic that with all the losing, he's by many measures having his best year yet as a pro. Career highs in PER, WS/48, Assist/TO ratio, and TS%. Especially encouraging is that his set-shot 3 has started to fall pretty regularly, although who knows if he can sustain it.

The problem is that his skill-set blends terribly with the rest of the starters. Wiggins, KG, and Prince are non-factors from outside the arc and Rubio only hits those shots when left wide open. And Mitchell doesn't let Towns take many shots from out there, so the spacing is absolutely terrible.

Now if you do get guys who theoretically can space the floor out there with Rubio, the defense goes to shit. Bjlelly, LaVine, Shabazz, Martin.....Pretty much all one-way offensively oriented players.

While Mitchell is not the answer as coach, I still think there is a roster construction problem. Too many mis-matched parts and one-way players.
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This is why I don't get anyone wanting to move on from Ricky. He produces in many ways but so many are hung up on just shooting. If the Wolves deal Ricky, they may get a better shooter but that player could very well be one dimensional. I say we hold onto the multi talented players and upgrade around them.
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if we ever get into the playoffs, you are going to see the problem with Ricky magnified. Teams are simply going to make Ricky beat them with his shot instead of his pass. And you all know what that's going to look like. It will look like 4 on 5 in a lot of ways, and our scorers will have to play a lot of iso to get their shots.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:if we ever get into the playoffs, you are going to see the problem with Ricky magnified. Teams are simply going to make Ricky beat them with his shot instead of his pass. And you all know what that's going to look like. It will look like 4 on 5 in a lot of ways, and our scorers will have to play a lot of iso to get their shots.


While I agree with this take, I'd love the opportunity to see it happen.

Sadly, the team isn't close to being a playoff team yet. Right now, Rubio's shooting is one of many areas smart teams can exploit the Wolves if necessary.
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Ppg, rebs, stls, asst, blks are virtually all unchanged and this is his career year? Not exactly setting the bar high for a guy that continues to be the leader of team that wins at a sub .350 clip.
It feels like fans have been losing for so long that their expectation of whats good has really lowered.
If this is truly Rickys career year like you say than it would be wise to get on the phone and get the most you can for him. Unlike what the Wolves did with Pek and KMart.
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Maybe running a different offense would help increase some of Ricky's value on that end, but unless he can improve his scoring ability (finishing at the rim at the very least), I tend to side with Cool on the PO comment. We don't want to see what happens when a team actually starts scouting us.
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I wouldn't mind an offense that might facilitate more shots at the rim, even for Ricky. Some more reps might even help him.
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PorkChop wrote:Ppg, rebs, stls, asst, blks are virtually all unchanged and this is his career year? Not exactly setting the bar high for a guy that continues to be the leader of team that wins at a sub .350 clip.
It feels like fans have been losing for so long that their expectation of whats good has really lowered.
If this is truly Rickys career year like you say than it would be wise to get on the phone and get the most you can for him. Unlike what the Wolves did with Pek and KMart.

Rubio has been very consistent. Check out his stats over his first five seasons:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/rubiori01.html

Injured or healthy. Decent offensive weapons or crappy ones... it doesn't really matter. He is who he is. He hasn't improved in much of a tangible way. And he's not improving in any meaningful way this late into his career. That's not bad, it's just not game-changing as far as winning games. He's fine for now on a bad team. It might be enough to help a team with talent reach the playoffs. But we don't really know. The team has underachieved nearly every season with Rubio at the point... whether that's his fault or everybody else's fault but Rubio... I just want to break the cycle.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
PorkChop wrote:Ppg, rebs, stls, asst, blks are virtually all unchanged and this is his career year? Not exactly setting the bar high for a guy that continues to be the leader of team that wins at a sub .350 clip.
It feels like fans have been losing for so long that their expectation of whats good has really lowered.
If this is truly Rickys career year like you say than it would be wise to get on the phone and get the most you can for him. Unlike what the Wolves did with Pek and KMart.

Rubio has been very consistent. Check out his stats over his first five seasons:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/rubiori01.html

Injured or healthy. Decent offensive weapons or crappy ones... it doesn't really matter. He is who he is. He hasn't improved in much of a tangible way. And he's not improving in any meaningful way this late into his career. That's not bad, it's just not game-changing as far as winning games. He's fine for now on a bad team. It might be enough to help a team with talent reach the playoffs. But we don't really know. The team has underachieved nearly every season with Rubio at the point... whether that's his fault or everybody else's fault but Rubio... I just want to break the cycle.


His number do show a slight uptick as the games per year increased.
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
PorkChop wrote:Ppg, rebs, stls, asst, blks are virtually all unchanged and this is his career year? Not exactly setting the bar high for a guy that continues to be the leader of team that wins at a sub .350 clip.
It feels like fans have been losing for so long that their expectation of whats good has really lowered.
If this is truly Rickys career year like you say than it would be wise to get on the phone and get the most you can for him. Unlike what the Wolves did with Pek and KMart.

Rubio has been very consistent. Check out his stats over his first five seasons:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/rubiori01.html

Injured or healthy. Decent offensive weapons or crappy ones... it doesn't really matter. He is who he is. He hasn't improved in much of a tangible way. And he's not improving in any meaningful way this late into his career. That's not bad, it's just not game-changing as far as winning games. He's fine for now on a bad team. It might be enough to help a team with talent reach the playoffs. But we don't really know. The team has underachieved nearly every season with Rubio at the point... whether that's his fault or everybody else's fault but Rubio... I just want to break the cycle.


His numbers have been consistently ho hum. We talk about changing the offense or bringing in players that fit his style. Goodness, talk about getting the superstar treatment! I'd consider that if your name is Steph,Lebron or Kevin. But when your a middle of the road pg with humble stats I'd think twice about catering my coach , players and scheme to him.
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