Cam's 2016 NBA Draft Big Board:

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Tier 1: Potential Franchise Cornerstones

1. Brandon Ingram, SF, Duke
2. Ben Simmons, PF, LSU

Tier 2: Potential All-Stars

3. Jamal Murray, SG, Kentucky
4. Dragan Bender, PF, INTL
5. Kris Dunn, PG, Providence
6. Buddy Hield, SG, Oklahoma
7. Jaylen Brown, SF, California

Tier 3: Potential Starters: Impact Players

8. Jakob Poeltl, C, Utah
9. Domantas Sabonis, PF, Gonzaga
10. Henry Ellenson, PF, Marquette
11. Marquese Chriss, PF, Washington
12. Malik Beasley, SG, Florida State

Tier 4: Potential Starters: Role Players

13. Deyonta Davis, PF, Michigan State
14. Denzel Valentine, SF, Michigan State
15. Taurean Prince, SF, Baylor
16. Wade Baldwin, SG, Vanderbilt
17. Skal Labissiere, PF, Kentucky
18. Caris LeVert, SG, Michigan

Tier 5: Potential Rotation Players, Specialists

19. DeAndre Bembry, SF, Saint Joseph's
20. Timothe Luwawu, SF, INTL
21. Brice Johnson, PF, North Carolina
22. Tyler Ulis, PG, Kentucky
23. Patrick McCaw, SG, UNLV
24. Malcolm Brogdan, SG, Virginia
25. Kyle Wiltjer, PF, Gonzaga

Tier 6: Potential NBA-Level Players

26. Demetrius Jackson, PG, Notre Dame
27. Cheick Diallo, C, Kansas
28. Dejounte Murray, PG, Washington
29. Thon Maker, PF, INTL
30. Diamond Stone, C, Maryland

* Posted as its own thread because it's easier to find as a thread rather than scrolling through hundreds of pages when I come back to it in the future. Might shift some players around before the NBA Draft due to further reports and potential injury concerns, but all will be done before the Sixers are on the clock.

My apologies to those that find this as an attempt to knock others draft big boards, or whatever might be negatively said about this. Not my intention.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Well done and well thought out Cam. Man, you sure are high on Murray. Is that based on you thinking he could become an NBA PG or is that ranking based purely on his potential as a SG?

It also appears you have taken Jaylen Brown a notch or two (?)

[kekgeek]

Well done and well thought out Cam. Man, you sure are high on Murray. Is that based on you thinking he could become an NBA PG or is that ranking based purely on his potential as a SG?

It also appears you have taken Jaylen Brown a notch or two (?)

I also have Murray number 3. The reason I have him 3 is because he scored 20 pts per game as a freshman. Played for a coach that has had previous success translating his players to the NBA. He can shoot the ball as good as anyone in the draft. He was number 1 in THE NCAA in fg% coming off screens *according to draft express. He has good ball handling skills that is something the wolves still lack. He can take some of the pressure off tyus as the combo gaurd. He is one of the youngest players in the draft. Yes he might not be the greatest defender but it is not like he is lazy on defense and I believe Thibs can come up with a scheme to lower Murray's defensive liabilities. I mean he is 3 years younger than Hield and Dunn he hasn't grown into his man body he is still just a kid. Also a added plus he will be playing with wiggins every summer for Canada where he shot 41% from 3pt range.

I won't be mad if we take Hield bender or Dunn (have him as my #6 prospect behind Ellenson). But if Murray is on the board and we pass I would be disappointed

[TAFKASP]

I notice theSP is getting a short shrift once again...

[Lipoli390]

Cam -- Really like your draft board. I especially like your categories. I have Sabonis ranked ahead of Poeltl and I donl't have Ellenson ranked as high. But otherwise, I'm hard pressed to quibble with any of your rankings.

Like Q, I was wondering about you thinking behind where you have Murray. I think geek gave a good answer, but I'm also interesting in hearing from you on that. I go back and forth on Murray. I like him and definitely have him in my top 10, but I'm not totally convinced he'll be all-star caliber at the next level.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Well done and well thought out Cam. Man, you sure are high on Murray. Is that based on you thinking he could become an NBA PG or is that ranking based purely on his potential as a SG?

It also appears you have taken Jaylen Brown a notch or two (?)

I also have Murray number 3. The reason I have him 3 is because he scored 20 pts per game as a freshman. Played for a coach that has had previous success translating his players to the NBA. He can shoot the ball as good as anyone in the draft. He was number 1 in THE NCAA in fg% coming off screens *according to draft express. He has good ball handling skills that is something the wolves still lack. He can take some of the pressure off tyus as the combo gaurd. He is one of the youngest players in the draft. Yes he might not be the greatest defender but it is not like he is lazy on defense and I believe Thibs can come up with a scheme to lower Murray's defensive liabilities. I mean he is 3 years younger than Hield and Dunn he hasn't grown into his man body he is still just a kid. Also a added plus he will be playing with wiggins every summer for Canada where he shot 41% from 3pt range.

I won't be mad if we take Hield bender or Dunn (have him as my #6 prospect behind Ellenson). But if Murray is on the board and we pass I would be disappointed

Yes, Murray's scoring/shooting numbers were really impressive for a freshman. I think his height/athletic profile limits his ultimate upside, as his ceiling seems to be in the CJ McCollum/JJ Redick/Bradley Beal range. Now obviously if he ended up as good as any of those three, that would be terrific, but I think those guys are his ceiling, which is different from most likely outcome.

As for fit, I just cringe at the thought of Tyus Jones, Jamal Murray, and Shabazz Muhammed coming off the bench as our backup perimeter trio. My God, they'd get torched.....

[kekgeek]

Well done and well thought out Cam. Man, you sure are high on Murray. Is that based on you thinking he could become an NBA PG or is that ranking based purely on his potential as a SG?

It also appears you have taken Jaylen Brown a notch or two (?)

I also have Murray number 3. The reason I have him 3 is because he scored 20 pts per game as a freshman. Played for a coach that has had previous success translating his players to the NBA. He can shoot the ball as good as anyone in the draft. He was number 1 in THE NCAA in fg% coming off screens *according to draft express. He has good ball handling skills that is something the wolves still lack. He can take some of the pressure off tyus as the combo gaurd. He is one of the youngest players in the draft. Yes he might not be the greatest defender but it is not like he is lazy on defense and I believe Thibs can come up with a scheme to lower Murray's defensive liabilities. I mean he is 3 years younger than Hield and Dunn he hasn't grown into his man body he is still just a kid. Also a added plus he will be playing with wiggins every summer for Canada where he shot 41% from 3pt range.

I won't be mad if we take Hield bender or Dunn (have him as my #6 prospect behind Ellenson). But if Murray is on the board and we pass I would be disappointed

Yes, Murray's scoring/shooting numbers were really impressive for a freshman. I think his height/athletic profile limits his ultimate upside, as his ceiling seems to be in the CJ McCollum/JJ Redick/Bradley Beal range. Now obviously if he ended up as good as any of those three, that would be terrific, but I think those guys are his ceiling, which is different from most likely outcome.

As for fit, I just cringe at the thought of Tyus Jones, Jamal Murray, and Shabazz Muhammed coming off the bench as our backup perimeter trio. My God, they'd get torched.....

More than likely any rookie we add will get torch on defense. I just believe Murray will be the better player. But I am not that high on any of the players

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Well done and well thought out Cam. Man, you sure are high on Murray. Is that based on you thinking he could become an NBA PG or is that ranking based purely on his potential as a SG?

It also appears you have taken Jaylen Brown a notch or two (?)

I also have Murray number 3. The reason I have him 3 is because he scored 20 pts per game as a freshman. Played for a coach that has had previous success translating his players to the NBA. He can shoot the ball as good as anyone in the draft. He was number 1 in THE NCAA in fg% coming off screens *according to draft express. He has good ball handling skills that is something the wolves still lack. He can take some of the pressure off tyus as the combo gaurd. He is one of the youngest players in the draft. Yes he might not be the greatest defender but it is not like he is lazy on defense and I believe Thibs can come up with a scheme to lower Murray's defensive liabilities. I mean he is 3 years younger than Hield and Dunn he hasn't grown into his man body he is still just a kid. Also a added plus he will be playing with wiggins every summer for Canada where he shot 41% from 3pt range.

I won't be mad if we take Hield bender or Dunn (have him as my #6 prospect behind Ellenson). But if Murray is on the board and we pass I would be disappointed

Yes, Murray's scoring/shooting numbers were really impressive for a freshman. I think his height/athletic profile limits his ultimate upside, as his ceiling seems to be in the CJ McCollum/JJ Redick/Bradley Beal range. Now obviously if he ended up as good as any of those three, that would be terrific, but I think those guys are his ceiling, which is different from most likely outcome.

As for fit, I just cringe at the thought of Tyus Jones, Jamal Murray, and Shabazz Muhammed coming off the bench as our backup perimeter trio. My God, they'd get torched.....

More than likely any rookie we add will get torch on defense. I just believe Murray will be the better player. But I am not that high on any of the players

True, but some more than others. Murray seems especially vulnerable given his age, physical profile, and body of work at Kentucky.

I'm with you though - I am not totally in love with anyone at #5 and ultimately will trust that Layden/Thibs do the right thing. I personally like Dunn, but I wouldn't mind Murray, Hield, or Bender either.

[BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]]

Nice list cam, forgot about Brice Johnson. Would you trade down for him? He'd be a good get at 20.

[Coolbreeze44]

I like the guy you have #28. I'd have him in the top 25 for sure.