Could we deal Barea?

[Hicks123 [enjin:6700838]]

Was just reading something that said Washington is desperately looking for a backup PG, as the Maynor experiment has completely bombed. Also mentioned that they have a glut of wings (including Webster and Ariza), and may need to deal someone to make room for Otto Porter to get some PT.

Washington is in a unique situation for them....5th playoff spot....thus they will probably be looking to upgrade before the trade deadline to ensure they make the playoffs this year.

This is one team where Barea makes sense, as he would provide some very valuable depth at the PG/SG spot. Couple questions for the Wolves:
1) As maddening as Barea is at times....can we afford to lose him?
2) Would Barea alone be enough to net Ariza or Webster?
- While I think Ariza is certainly more valuable than Barea, he is an expiring that Washington may not retain past this year. This would be best case for Wolves (although his 3pt % is bound to regress WAY back to mean)
- Webster for Barea is probably a solid deal for Wolves if not looking at money/health aspect. Webster is by far the riskier player from a health perspective and is guaranteed a 3rd year to Bareas 2 year deal. In the end, Webster would give the Wolves BY FAR its best 3 point shooter to help space the floor.

Does anyone do either deal? Would it take a lot more from the Wolves to get Washington to bite? Shabazz perhaps?

[alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRz0hfakFAw

[markkbu [enjin:6588958]]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRz0hfakFAw

that's funny,.......and it also lead directly to a wolf loss.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Barea and anything else for Ariza. I'm in. Shabazz, DC, Dieng, etc. Whatever scraps they want.

Assuming the Wizards are stupid and accept that deal, what do we do about our PG situation? Let Shved run the bench offense and hope it works out? AJ Price gets more PT? In theory, I'd love to acquire Ariza. I wasn't sold on him pre-season, but I was wrong. He would have been a perfect fit here and if we went: Rubio/Martin/Ariza/Love/Pek, our starting lineup gets much better when it doesn't really need to, and then we have Brewer/Bud off the bench which is nice. Worried about our PG off the bench even with Barea, so what would we do?

Does Washington even trade Ariza? I think they have to, right? Webster's locked up, Porter's supposed to be their SF of the future and Ariza's on an expiring deal.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Also, I don't know how up-to-date this stat is since I heard it the other day during a Wizards game, but Ariza is/was leading the NBA in corner threes.

I wonder if we could use that in this offense... Oh...

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Also, I don't know how up-to-date this stat is since I heard it the other day during a Wizards game, but Ariza is/was leading the NBA in corner threes.

I wonder if we could use that in this offense... Oh...

Heh....Unfortunately the myth being propagated in pre-season that Corey Brewer was a good corner 3 shooter has indeed proven to be just that, a myth. Was it Abe that pointed out that in fact Brewer is one of the worst corner 3 shooters in the NBA that has taken a critical mass of attempts? Instead, if you go through the shot charts for Brewer over the years, you will see random spots where he indeed does well - including on occasion from one of the corners - and then generally does horrific everywhere else. But there is no consistent pattern of good corner three shooting in general. Does Flip look at this stuff?

As for making a move with Washington, I really think we need to see how Budinger does first. We have a lot of money tied up between him, Brewer, Luc, and Shved. I also get scared looking at Ariza's career 3 pt%. We've seen how on the T-Wolves guys almost always drift back to their career average in this area (we've seen that happen this year already with Brewer - who went down after a hot start - and Barea - who went up after a cold start).

[AbeVigodaLive]

Also, I don't know how up-to-date this stat is since I heard it the other day during a Wizards game, but Ariza is/was leading the NBA in corner threes.

I wonder if we could use that in this offense... Oh...

It seems like Wall is the perfect antidote for guys who want to resurrect fledgling careers as corner 3 guys.

See Martell Webster.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

I just don't see how Barea and pieces for a 3 and D wing makes us better. Unless there is a deal in place to get a backup PG there is no reason to trade JJ because Shved is certainly not going to be reliable and AJ Price got cut for Maynor. You fill one hole just to open another. Martin/Bud/Brewer + some LRMAM is going to be our wing rotation. I just don't see why it would make sense to add another wing to that mix. Believe it or not, backup PG is a huge role come playoff time and you need someone you can count on to be there and JJ has proven to be that in the playoffs. JJ was a big contributor to a title team off the bench. The best way to improve the team at this point is to get a rim protector (preferably one that could play 4 or 5) or a bench big that can actually score in the paint. A 3 and D wing is not on that list. We can do better than an expiring contract for JJ. There is no reason to trade him unless we get back someone who is in the long-term plans, otherwise the hole that would be opened wouldn't be worth the trade for a guy we wouldn't bring back because we have 4 wings with guaranteed deals going into next season.

[Papalrep]

For Gods sake not Webster!!!!!! (Don't like his hair)

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Why couldn't Ariza be part of the long-term plan? You don't think the upgrade from Brewer to Ariza is huge? We wouldn't just be trading for an expiring contract, but hopefully a guy we think would fit in very well with Love/Pek/Rubio/Martin and could re-sign. Even if it meant we had to deal Bud/Brewer/MaM next off-season to clear room to keep Ariza, I think it'd be worth it personally.

I get the point about Barea and how he's had success in the playoffs, but I don't know if he's a good enough facilitator for our second unit as it is. That's why some of us, myself included, wanted Shved to grow as a player and take over backup PG duties, but that hasn't happened.

If we could use Barea to get Ariza, I'd be all for it. Ariza's the better player on both ends of the court. Martin/Ariza and Brewer/Budinger as our wing rotations would be really quite good. Mbah a Moute could then be the backup PF making DC as a small trade piece. I agree, we'd have a situation in regards to backup PG, but how difficult would it be to acquire Hinrich/Ridnour/Sessions? Even if that's not possible, I'd roll with throwing Shved in the fire if it meant adding a nice piece like Ariza.