Pekovic -- Not The Problem
- m4gor [enjin:6667447]
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the fact is that PEK is top10 as an 1on1 defender, he allows high percentage of shots to come through that is true because he cannot block them, but because he denies low positions there are not that many FGs attempted against him, he is allowing 17pts per 48 minutes to opposing C with PER around 15, which is much closer to def. specialist centers than one would think, this season there is only one big with really dominant defensive numbers and that is Hibbert, which is based on how whole team performs, and PEK completely dominated and demolished him 1on1 when we played them
also his work on opposing centers is directly connected to Love's rebounding numbers, PEK is freeing so much space for Kevin on both ends of the floor, just think about that :-D
what PEK is not able to do is to bail out mistakes of others, that is why our guards and forwards should care to not gamble too much because there is no presence in paint to cover their fails, you know what, it is easiest thing on the world to take some particular advanced stats and PEKs blocking numbers and point at him as he is our biggest problem, sometimes it is hilarious like when Ricky was constantly going under the screen vs C.Paul who was absolutely torching us and second day you read everywhere that PEK is bad PnR defender and that cost us a game .. people wake up, get real
also his work on opposing centers is directly connected to Love's rebounding numbers, PEK is freeing so much space for Kevin on both ends of the floor, just think about that :-D
what PEK is not able to do is to bail out mistakes of others, that is why our guards and forwards should care to not gamble too much because there is no presence in paint to cover their fails, you know what, it is easiest thing on the world to take some particular advanced stats and PEKs blocking numbers and point at him as he is our biggest problem, sometimes it is hilarious like when Ricky was constantly going under the screen vs C.Paul who was absolutely torching us and second day you read everywhere that PEK is bad PnR defender and that cost us a game .. people wake up, get real
- markkbu [enjin:6588958]
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Re: Pekovic -- Not The Problem
m4gor wrote:the fact is that PEK is top10 as an 1on1 defender, he allows high percentage of shots to come through that is true because he cannot block them, but because he denies low positions there are not that many FGs attempted against him, he is allowing 17pts per 48 minutes to opposing C with PER around 15, which is much closer to def. specialist centers than one would think, this season there is only one big with really dominant defensive numbers and that is Hibbert, which is based on how whole team performs, and PEK completely dominated and demolished him 1on1 when we played them
also his work on opposing centers is directly connected to Love's rebounding numbers, PEK is freeing so much space for Kevin on both ends of the floor, just think about that :-D
what PEK is not able to do is to bail out mistakes of others, that is why our guards and forwards should care to not gamble too much because there is no presence in paint to cover their fails, you know what, it is easiest thing on the world to take some particular advanced stats and PEKs blocking numbers and point at him as he is our biggest problem, sometimes it is hilarious like when Ricky was constantly going under the screen vs C.Paul who was absolutely torching us and second day you read everywhere that PEK is bad PnR defender and that cost us a game .. people wake up, get real
well said
Re: Pekovic -- Not The Problem
markkbu wrote:m4gor wrote:the fact is that PEK is top10 as an 1on1 defender, he allows high percentage of shots to come through that is true because he cannot block them, but because he denies low positions there are not that many FGs attempted against him, he is allowing 17pts per 48 minutes to opposing C with PER around 15, which is much closer to def. specialist centers than one would think, this season there is only one big with really dominant defensive numbers and that is Hibbert, which is based on how whole team performs, and PEK completely dominated and demolished him 1on1 when we played them
also his work on opposing centers is directly connected to Love's rebounding numbers, PEK is freeing so much space for Kevin on both ends of the floor, just think about that :-D
what PEK is not able to do is to bail out mistakes of others, that is why our guards and forwards should care to not gamble too much because there is no presence in paint to cover their fails, you know what, it is easiest thing on the world to take some particular advanced stats and PEKs blocking numbers and point at him as he is our biggest problem, sometimes it is hilarious like when Ricky was constantly going under the screen vs C.Paul who was absolutely torching us and second day you read everywhere that PEK is bad PnR defender and that cost us a game .. people wake up, get real
well said
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Re: Pekovic -- Not The Problem
m4gor wrote:the fact is that PEK is top10 as an 1on1 defender, he allows high percentage of shots to come through that is true because he cannot block them, but because he denies low positions there are not that many FGs attempted against him, he is allowing 17pts per 48 minutes to opposing C with PER around 15, which is much closer to def. specialist centers than one would think, this season there is only one big with really dominant defensive numbers and that is Hibbert, which is based on how whole team performs, and PEK completely dominated and demolished him 1on1 when we played them
also his work on opposing centers is directly connected to Love's rebounding numbers, PEK is freeing so much space for Kevin on both ends of the floor, just think about that :-D
what PEK is not able to do is to bail out mistakes of others, that is why our guards and forwards should care to not gamble too much because there is no presence in paint to cover their fails, you know what, it is easiest thing on the world to take some particular advanced stats and PEKs blocking numbers and point at him as he is our biggest problem, sometimes it is hilarious like when Ricky was constantly going under the screen vs C.Paul who was absolutely torching us and second day you read everywhere that PEK is bad PnR defender and that cost us a game .. people wake up, get real
Kevin Love was pulling down over 15 boards when Pek was riding the pine his rookie season, so I don't see any connection there whatsoever.
What's hilarious is that when Ricky is constantly going under screens it is likely due to the defensive scheme. Coaches actually instruct players how to play those situations before games depending on the opposing PG's quickness, ball handling and outside shooting ability. You have your player go under a screen when your big can't get out to stop the opposing PG's cut to the basket, and rather have him take an outside shot rather than an uncontested layup. Chris Paul had been struggling with his outside shot over the last couple of games coming into his matchup with Minny. Pek cannot cover enough ground quick enough to stop the PG's cut. It isn't poor execution on Pek's part, but more so a simple limitation for a guy with Pek's physique.
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sjm34 wrote:m4gor wrote:the fact is that PEK is top10 as an 1on1 defender, he allows high percentage of shots to come through that is true because he cannot block them, but because he denies low positions there are not that many FGs attempted against him, he is allowing 17pts per 48 minutes to opposing C with PER around 15, which is much closer to def. specialist centers than one would think, this season there is only one big with really dominant defensive numbers and that is Hibbert, which is based on how whole team performs, and PEK completely dominated and demolished him 1on1 when we played them
also his work on opposing centers is directly connected to Love's rebounding numbers, PEK is freeing so much space for Kevin on both ends of the floor, just think about that :-D
what PEK is not able to do is to bail out mistakes of others, that is why our guards and forwards should care to not gamble too much because there is no presence in paint to cover their fails, you know what, it is easiest thing on the world to take some particular advanced stats and PEKs blocking numbers and point at him as he is our biggest problem, sometimes it is hilarious like when Ricky was constantly going under the screen vs C.Paul who was absolutely torching us and second day you read everywhere that PEK is bad PnR defender and that cost us a game .. people wake up, get real
Kevin Love was pulling down over 15 boards when Pek was riding the pine his rookie season, so I don't see any connection there whatsoever.
What's hilarious is that when Ricky is constantly going under screens it is likely due to the defensive scheme. Coaches actually instruct players how to play those situations before games depending on the opposing PG's quickness, ball handling and outside shooting ability. You have your player go under a screen when your big can't get out to stop the opposing PG's cut to the basket, and rather have him take an outside shot rather than an uncontested layup. Chris Paul had been struggling with his outside shot over the last couple of games coming into his matchup with Minny. Pek cannot cover enough ground quick enough to stop the PG's cut. It isn't poor execution on Pek's part, but more so a simple limitation for a guy with Pek's physique.
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well back then our starting center was Darko right? not really center who steal your rebounds
how is our transition constructed, PEK is boxing out Cs for Love or Rubio to grab rebound to pass to Brewer rushing to the other end of the floor, PEK grabs rebound only if that bounces his way, because if he grab rebound no fast transition is possible
hilarious idea is that you plug in athletic C who is rebounding at 18rebs per 48 rate and you will have enough rebounds left for Love to get his 15 :-D .. PEK is rebounding at 12rebs per 48 rate, but also is allowing only 12rebs per 48 as there is major ground fight going on, this is actually similar to what Gasol+Zbo are doing in MEM
also i tend to NOT believe that any coach in nba would instruct his player to go under the screen vs Paul based on few games of shooting, as everybody knows that long term percentage is much more important than few games skids, maybe if he cannot hit anything for like half season or so .. and then definitely you dont want to go under the screen to allow 13ft jumpers with few minutes left, that is clearly mistake on Rubios part
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sjm34 wrote:m4gor wrote: Pek cannot cover enough ground quick enough to stop the PG's cut. It isn't poor execution on Pek's part, but more so a simple limitation for a guy with Pek's physique.
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PEK liabilities are obvious and that is that he is not good team/help defender, but his 1on1 defense is somewhat able to offset them otherwise there would be big jump in defensive points allowed per 100 possessions as is normal for bad defenders, our poor defense is not caused by PEK nearly as much as you try to persuade yourself and others, that is more about Rubio allowing 25 pts per 48 minutes at 21 PER and Brewer allowing 22 pts per 48 minutes at 18 PER, our guys are gambling for steals and Love for rebs without contesting shots and letting their opponents to feast on them and fanbase then turn to PEKs rim protection as a cause off all bad :-D
Re: Pekovic -- Not The Problem
alexftbl8181 wrote:Pek? come on. Give this team a player who can score 10 off the bench and this team has at least 8 more wins
Yes! Or at least 4 more wins.
All our starters have significant weaknesses: Pek's length, defense and hands; Love's length and defense; Martin's defense, inability to score off the dribble and tendency to disappear or play passively (scared); Brewer's horrible ball-handling and poor shooting. More than anything, it hurts not having a go-to guy in the starting lineup who can create his own shot off the dribble.
But in the final analysis, it's our horrible bench that's dragging us down!!!!
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lipoli390 wrote:alexftbl8181 wrote:Pek? come on. Give this team a player who can score 10 off the bench and this team has at least 8 more wins
Yes! Or at least 4 more wins.
All our starters have significant weaknesses: Pek's length, defense and hands; Love's length and defense; Martin's defense, inability to score off the dribble and tendency to disappear or play passively (scared); Brewer's horrible ball-handling and poor shooting. More than anything, it hurts not having a go-to guy in the starting lineup who can create his own shot off the dribble.
But in the final analysis, it's our horrible bench that's dragging us down!!!!
Bingo. Can't wait to have Bud's 10 PPG back in the rotation.
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The only starter I'm down on at all is Martin. That's because I have repeatedly seen him play scared -- standing around and not calling for the ball. In fact I have seen him repeatedly shy away from the ball and pass up shots in favor of passing the ball to Brewer. That's unacceptable given the role Martin was brought here to fill at $7 million per year for 4 years.
The weaknesses we've seen in the other starters are what we expected -- it's who they are, although there is still hope Ricky can improve his shooting. But Martin is falling short in the very area we expected him time excel -- namely getting open and taking big shots, especially at the end if games.
The weaknesses we've seen in the other starters are what we expected -- it's who they are, although there is still hope Ricky can improve his shooting. But Martin is falling short in the very area we expected him time excel -- namely getting open and taking big shots, especially at the end if games.
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lipoli390 wrote:The only starter I'm down on at all is Martin. That's because I have repeatedly seen him play scared -- standing around and not calling for the ball. In fact I have seen him repeatedly shy away from the ball and pass up shots in favor of passing the ball to Brewer. That's unacceptable given the role Martin was brought here to fill at $7 million per year for 4 years.
The weaknesses we've seen in the other starters are what we expected -- it's who they are, although there is still hope Ricky can improve his shooting. But Martin is falling short in the very area we expected him time excel -- namely getting open and taking big shots, especially at the end if games.
I've really liked Martin play this year. I thought $7.5m a year was too much, but at least this year, he has been worth it. Chase playing starter minutes and Brewer the first wing off the bench would have been the difference this year.
Wow. This thread is a month old. Are there really still people out there that think that Pek is the problem with this season?