Jamal Crawford, Aaron Brooks....

[BloopOracle]

are there any of these kind of bench players we can get?

ones that suck at everything besides shooting?

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Marcus Thornton comes to mind. Guy I keep bringing up...

[ace [enjin:6598567]]

Nate Robinson was available for a long time this offseason. He would have been like Barea, but better. He has higher high points, but probable lower lows too. I love watching Nate play though.

[markkbu [enjin:6588958]]

Cam......do you have any clue why Thornton isn't getting more burn in Sac. I'm thinking that the guy is a bit of a malcontent, I could be wrong on that.

Considering the youth of our team, I'd be hesitant to to bring in a player that might set bad examples for our younger players. I think that our team is finally heading in the right direction, and I think that, in the long run, we will be better off "staying the course" than adding a questionable personality.

[mjs34]

I am not a Thornton fan. As Mark mentioned he does have some emotional issues from time to time, he makes too much money for what he gives, and like DW is really struggling this season. Maybe a change of scenery is all he needs, but I sure don't want to be paying more money out on a chance he will improve. His one saving grace in my eyes, is his 3 pt shooting, but according to Cam we have already corrected that weakness.

[KiwiMatt]

No thanks on Thornton.

But yes we certainly lack a player who can come in off the bench and be a threat to put up 20 points. Maybe Budinger can be that guy when he's back. Unfortunately Barea thinks he's that guy now....

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Cam......do you have any clue why Thornton isn't getting more burn in Sac. I'm thinking that the guy is a bit of a malcontent, I could be wrong on that.

Considering the youth of our team, I'd be hesitant to to bring in a player that might set bad examples for our younger players. I think that our team is finally heading in the right direction, and I think that, in the long run, we will be better off "staying the course" than adding a questionable personality.

Thornton's averaging 28 minutes per game, but he's been benched the last three games and I have yet to read an answer why. Jimmer replaced him in the rotation. At least that should signify that he's available...

What young players do we have that he could have a negative impact on? Shved and Shabazz? If anything I actually think Adelman, K-Mart, Rubio and Love would be good for Thornton. Look at SAC's locker room. Cousins (wouldn't let Thomas shake CP3's hand after a game), Isaiah Thomas, Landry, Salmons, Vasquez. Who's the leader there? In my opinion, they don't have one so it's not like Thornton's teammates are a good impact on him. I never read anything bad about him when he was the Bayou Bomber in New Orleans. Really think the guy needs a different team.

I can understand why people would say they don't want him, but I would disagree and say that he'd be a good pickup.

I am not a Thornton fan. As Mark mentioned he does have some emotional issues from time to time, he makes too much money for what he gives, and like DW is really struggling this season. Maybe a change of scenery is all he needs, but I sure don't want to be paying more money out on a chance he will improve. His one saving grace in my eyes, is his 3 pt shooting, but according to Cam we have already corrected that weakness.

Would you rather have D-Will or Thornton, sjm? Even if I agreed with you in that he has emotional issues, he's overpaid and that he's struggling this season, the one thing he would bring to this team that D-Will can't is depth at SG and reliable shooting from outside. If you want to be technical about it, D-Will's also the things you named as well. He doesn't have his head right to reach his potential (character flaw), he's way overpaid and he's struggled this year.

Last in 3pt-shooting last year. Much improved this year. That once weakness is now a strength this year. I don't see why you feel like I'm wrong on that when the numbers are undeniable. Also, teams can never have enough shooters. Thornton would still help this team with his shooting even though we aren't weak in that area as opposed to last year.

[mjs34]

Would you rather have D-Will or Thornton, sjm? Even if I agreed with you in that he has emotional issues, he's overpaid and that he's struggling this season, the one thing he would bring to this team that D-Will can't is depth at SG and reliable shooting from outside. If you want to be technical about it, D-Will's also the things you named as well. He doesn't have his head right to reach his potential (character flaw), he's way overpaid and he's struggled this year.

Last in 3pt-shooting last year. Much improved this year. That once weakness is now a strength this year. I don't see why you feel like I'm wrong on that when the numbers are undeniable. Also, teams can never have enough shooters. Thornton would still help this team with his shooting even though we aren't weak in that area as opposed to last year.

Cam if you agreed that he is struggling this season (28% from 3) and he is, how would he bring reliable outside shooting? Am I missing something there?

You keep talking up our 3pt shooting and calling it a strength, even referring to undeniable numbers, but when I checked the stats they say something different.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/_/stat/offense-per-game/sort/threePointFieldGoalPct

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Would you rather have D-Will or Thornton, sjm? Even if I agreed with you in that he has emotional issues, he's overpaid and that he's struggling this season, the one thing he would bring to this team that D-Will can't is depth at SG and reliable shooting from outside. If you want to be technical about it, D-Will's also the things you named as well. He doesn't have his head right to reach his potential (character flaw), he's way overpaid and he's struggled this year.

Last in 3pt-shooting last year. Much improved this year. That once weakness is now a strength this year. I don't see why you feel like I'm wrong on that when the numbers are undeniable. Also, teams can never have enough shooters. Thornton would still help this team with his shooting even though we aren't weak in that area as opposed to last year.

Cam if you agreed that he is struggling this season (28% from 3) and he is, how would he bring reliable outside shooting? Am I missing something there?

You keep talking up our 3pt shooting and calling it a strength, even referring to undeniable numbers, but when I checked the stats they say something different.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/_/stat/offense-per-game/sort/threePointFieldGoalPct

Previous to last game where we shot 8-26 from 3, Minnesota was 15th in 3-pt shooting. So as of right now, sure, you are correct. They're in the bottom third of the league. 8-26 (31%) isn't the normal type of shooting for Minnesota this season, however, and they had to have tired legs playing their fourth game in five days and the second game of a back-to-back. Sounds like an excuse, and you can hold me to this, but Minnesota's a much better shooting team than that Rockets game portrayed. Give it several weeks or more to change your mind.

As for Thornton, he's only played in nine games this year and like we've already established, he's struggling. That whole team is struggling. For Thornton this is an extremely small sample size. Look at his history.

Year: 3P-3PA %
2009: 1.6-4.3 (.374)
2010: 1.2-3.3 (.367)
2011: 2.1-6.1 (.345)
2012: 2.0-5.3 (.372)

I'd rather look at his past to determine the things he does well. Yes, Thornton is struggling this year from deep, but I think that's uncharacteristic of him. His numbers say he's a pretty good, or as I said "reliable", three-point shooter.

Also, he's only had one and a half season where he played with a pass-first point guard (Chris Paul). Since he's been in Sac-Town, he's had a score-first point guard (Thomas). I don't know if you're a believer that Rubio finds shooters good looks, but I am and I think Thornton would benefit greatly if he was on this team.

[KiwiMatt]

Another Thornton debate! I don't mind the guy but his contract stinks.