AP arrested

[bleedspeed]

The one thing I go keep remember hearing. He didn't know he was hurting the kids because he wouldn't cry or show the pain. I am not sure there was intent long term hurt There was intent for punishment. It is such a hard thing to judge without knowing all of the details. I don't us that approach with my kids, but my parents used that approach with me. I know parents that used hot wheel tracks. My parents used the wooden spoon and II used to laugh or I would have to wash my mouth out with soap. Tough call. I am not making a judgement one way or the other.

[thedoper]

The one thing I go keep remember hearing. He didn't know he was hurting the kids because he wouldn't cry or show the pain. I am not sure there was intent long term hurt There was intent for punishment. It is such a hard thing to judge without knowing all of the details. I don't us that approach with my kids, but my parents used that approach with me. I know parents that used hot wheel tracks. My parents used the wooden spoon and II used to laugh or I would have to wash my mouth out with soap. Tough call. I am not making a judgement one way or the other.

I think "child abuse" is a legal term. Therefore that term should be left in the courts. I think everyone (AP included) seems to agree this kids punishment was a bit beyond what was/is appropriate for a 4 year old. Let the criminal aspect of anything he did be decided in that arena. It is a tough call because regardless of what people say now, he is only a child abuser if the courts find him to be such. I think everyone should wait to see how this pans out in the courts and not in the court of public opinion.

[alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]]

Right or wrong you have to realize everyone is raised differently. This appears to be a standard whopping using a switch, not a man trying to abuse a child. It's preposterous how much people overreact these days.

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/09/photos-of-adrian-petersons-4-year-old-son-after-switch-spanking/

Rage, check out these photos of the four year old whose father whipped him repeatedly on the legs and scrotum with a tree branch. I'm not sure how anyone who wants this beast gone can be accused of overreacting. The NFL suspended a guy for a year for smoking a joint or two. AP deserves at least that. Do you really not consider this child abuse?

I've seen the photos and they look exactly how I would expect them to look, I also don't consider discipline to be child abuse so no I don't think AP is a child abuser. You have to understand how cultural differences played a role in this, just look at some of the comments from Peterson and Felton on the issue. Obviously I can't speak for them but both of credit their parents' discipline for avoiding trouble growing up so why wouldn't they use similar styles of discipline on their children?

Here's a hypothetical for you: Let's say a kid is a lazy bum who sits and plays video games all day. The parent wants him to get exercise so the kid is forced to play soccer, during a game the kid breaks an arm. Essentially the kid is forced to do something that breaks his arm so should that parent be charged with reckless injury to a child?

I break your legs with a baseball bat. Right as your walking out of a hospital you get hit by a bus. Should I be charged if you died anyway?

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

Right or wrong you have to realize everyone is raised differently. This appears to be a standard whopping using a switch, not a man trying to abuse a child. It's preposterous how much people overreact these days.

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/09/photos-of-adrian-petersons-4-year-old-son-after-switch-spanking/

Rage, check out these photos of the four year old whose father whipped him repeatedly on the legs and scrotum with a tree branch. I'm not sure how anyone who wants this beast gone can be accused of overreacting. The NFL suspended a guy for a year for smoking a joint or two. AP deserves at least that. Do you really not consider this child abuse?

I've seen the photos and they look exactly how I would expect them to look, I also don't consider discipline to be child abuse so no I don't think AP is a child abuser. You have to understand how cultural differences played a role in this, just look at some of the comments from Peterson and Felton on the issue. Obviously I can't speak for them but both of credit their parents' discipline for avoiding trouble growing up so why wouldn't they use similar styles of discipline on their children?

Here's a hypothetical for you: Let's say a kid is a lazy bum who sits and plays video games all day. The parent wants him to get exercise so the kid is forced to play soccer, during a game the kid breaks an arm. Essentially the kid is forced to do something that breaks his arm so should that parent be charged with reckless injury to a child?

I think you and I are in agreement on only one aspect of this story. I agree that the photos look like what I would expect if a 220 pound man whipped a 4-year-old boy with a tree branch. And we only saw the damage done to the boy's legs...I imagine the reported injuries to his buttocks, scrotum and hands don't look much different. I have done volunteer child protection work for over 20 years in Hennepin County, and although I have seen much worse, I can assure you that breaking the skin by whipping a child with an object would be defined as physical abuse in any courtroom.

Your hypothetical situation would not be defined as abuse because it was an indirect action by the parents rather than a direct action, and a reasonable adult wouldn't conclude that a soccer game will necessarily result in injury. In contrast, a reasonable adult needs to understand that whipping a child with a tree branch is likely to cause injury, and thus it is a clear example of physical abuse.

I find Peterson's argument that this kind of discipline helps keep a child on the right path ironic at best. Let's examine Peterson's record so far:

1) 7 out of wedlock children by 5 different women, one of which he didn't even know about until he was informed the boy was in a coma
2) Charged in 2012 with resisting arrest outside of a Houston nightclub
3) A felony indictment for reckless or negligent injury of a child.

Is this the behavior of a person that was properly parented? And those are only the things we know about, and he's only 29 so he may not be done yet, especially if he doesn't get some help. I suspect his father was beaten as a child too because of these cultural differences, and he ended up doing 10 years in prison for laundering crack cocaine money. I've heard the "cultural differences" argument, and think that Chris Carter presented a stirring refutation yesterday. Maybe there are cultural differences, but it doesn't excuse abuse, and at some point the cycle of abuse needs to be stopped.

The Vikings won my respect by benching Peterson last Sunday, and then lost it again by inserting him back in the lineup for the Saints game. They could have made a strong anti-child abuse statement by sitting Peterson for a minimum of 6 games while insisting he complete parenting and anger management classes before reinstatement. But they determined that winning football games was more important. A kid may be scarred for life, but does it really matter if the Vikings can go 8-8?

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

https://twitter.com/KHOU/status/511644523861004288

Is anyone really surprised about this report? Maybe it's nothing...let's hope it isn't. But since Peterson has admitted he uses physical means to discipline his kids, he's left himself wide open for additional investigation.

[Monster]

https://twitter.com/KHOU/status/511644523861004288

Is anyone really surprised about this report? Maybe it's nothing...let's hope it isn't. But since Peterson has admitted he uses physical means to discipline his kids, he's left himself wide open for additional investigation.

That looks bad. I think its time to consider that AP has a real problem.

[The Rage Monster [enjin:8010341]]

Right or wrong you have to realize everyone is raised differently. This appears to be a standard whopping using a switch, not a man trying to abuse a child. It's preposterous how much people overreact these days.

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2014/09/photos-of-adrian-petersons-4-year-old-son-after-switch-spanking/

Rage, check out these photos of the four year old whose father whipped him repeatedly on the legs and scrotum with a tree branch. I'm not sure how anyone who wants this beast gone can be accused of overreacting. The NFL suspended a guy for a year for smoking a joint or two. AP deserves at least that. Do you really not consider this child abuse?

I've seen the photos and they look exactly how I would expect them to look, I also don't consider discipline to be child abuse so no I don't think AP is a child abuser. You have to understand how cultural differences played a role in this, just look at some of the comments from Peterson and Felton on the issue. Obviously I can't speak for them but both of credit their parents' discipline for avoiding trouble growing up so why wouldn't they use similar styles of discipline on their children?

Here's a hypothetical for you: Let's say a kid is a lazy bum who sits and plays video games all day. The parent wants him to get exercise so the kid is forced to play soccer, during a game the kid breaks an arm. Essentially the kid is forced to do something that breaks his arm so should that parent be charged with reckless injury to a child?

I think you and I are in agreement on only one aspect of this story. I agree that the photos look like what I would expect if a 220 pound man whipped a 4-year-old boy with a tree branch. And we only saw the damage done to the boy's legs...I imagine the reported injuries to his buttocks, scrotum and hands don't look much different. I have done volunteer child protection work for over 20 years in Hennepin County, and although I have seen much worse, I can assure you that breaking the skin by whipping a child with an object would be defined as physical abuse in any courtroom.

Your hypothetical situation would not be defined as abuse because it was an indirect action by the parents rather than a direct action, and a reasonable adult wouldn't conclude that a soccer game will necessarily result in injury. In contrast, a reasonable adult needs to understand that whipping a child with a tree branch is likely to cause injury, and thus it is a clear example of physical abuse.

I find Peterson's argument that this kind of discipline helps keep a child on the right path ironic at best. Let's examine Peterson's record so far:

1) 7 out of wedlock children by 5 different women, one of which he didn't even know about until he was informed the boy was in a coma
2) Charged in 2012 with resisting arrest outside of a Houston nightclub
3) A felony indictment for reckless or negligent injury of a child.

Is this the behavior of a person that was properly parented? And those are only the things we know about, and he's only 29 so he may not be done yet, especially if he doesn't get some help. I suspect his father was beaten as a child too because of these cultural differences, and he ended up doing 10 years in prison for laundering crack cocaine money. I've heard the "cultural differences" argument, and think that Chris Carter presented a stirring refutation yesterday. Maybe there are cultural differences, but it doesn't excuse abuse, and at some point the cycle of abuse needs to be stopped.

The Vikings won my respect by benching Peterson last Sunday, and then lost it again by inserting him back in the lineup for the Saints game. They could have made a strong anti-child abuse statement by sitting Peterson for a minimum of 6 games while insisting he complete parenting and anger management classes before reinstatement. But they determined that winning football games was more important. A kid may be scarred for life, but does it really matter if the Vikings can go 8-8?

I get it, for you AP is guilty until proven innocent and even then he'd still be guilty. For once try looking at this without that perspective. If you actually listened to what Carter was saying you would realize he's not denying there are cultural differences. He said his mom did the best she could but was wrong, he never once said she was a child abuser. That is exactly what happened with AP. Again he was raised that way and credits it for his success so right or wrong why wouldn't he use similar methods on his children?

As far as your recollection of AP's record you're really reaching. While I firmly disagree with having kids out of wedlock with multiple baby mama's that is by no means a crime. Simply being charged is relatively meaningless and he was cleared of those charges. That means you're using his current, and only, issue as proof the way he was parented didn't lead him down a good path.

You chose to ignore the main point so I'll try to make it more clear for you. Let's say in the same situation the parent is the coach and during a scrimmage that the coach was participating in he breaks the kids leg somehow. Playing sports causes injuries, in low level games (think t-ball level soccer) I've seen broken arms and legs not to mention all the cuts and sprains kids get. So in fact any reasonable adult would conclude that there would mostly be some type of injury throughout a season

[Monster]

I'm more proud to be a Vikings fan this morning than I was yesterday. I think the Vikings made the right decision. Time to get out those Matt Asiata jerseys. Lol

[alexftbl8181 [enjin:6648741]]

your comparison is so outlandish, that it doesn't warrant a response

[The Rage Monster [enjin:8010341]]

your comparison is so outlandish, that it doesn't warrant a response

It is hardly outlandish, injuries happen all the time. You are either incapable of making the simple connection or more likely you don't want to make the connection, either way it's a shame.