It may be time to remove Shved from the rotation for a bit

[markkbu [enjin:6588958]]

Granted, he isn't playing much......but in the time that he is playing, he isn't doing much well. I guess that anyone could make the "D-Will agrument" that if you aren't playing him 30 minutes a game, no one know what you can do. I just never buy into that argument.

During his 10 or so minutes per game we need more out of that time. It really seems like we could put anyone in there a get about the same amount that we are getting out of Shved. I'd like to see Shabazz get a couple minutes per game. He plays a bit hungry.

Granted, this is not that significant, because we are talking about a few minutes per game, but if Shved is playing and not producing let's give the rookie a shot.

[BloopOracle]

Shved is not a good NBA player

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

Martin right now looks like the only guard on our team who is in total control of his game. Ricky is turning the ball over almost 3 times a game, takes poor shots all game long resulting in his putrid sub 30% FG% on 10 shots a game and gambles a lot on defense. JJ just keeps shooting even though he is struggling and he just needs to tighten his game up a bit. I know his job is to create chaos, but he is much more effective when it is controlled chaos. Our guards need to slow the game down and create controlled chaos and they will get that much better. That is the same problem Shved has. He just doesn't make the smart play and stay in control. It just goes such a long way when guys make the right play even if it isn't flashy and trying to push the tempo. That is why guys like CP3 (same with Nash in his Phoenix days) are the best at the position. He is in control on every play and surgically takes the other team apart. That would be the best thing Ricky could do. Become a surgeon over being a chaos machine. That is the next step all our guards need to take to make us that much better.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

Martin right now looks like the only guard on our team who is in total control of his game. Ricky is turning the ball over almost 3 times a game, takes poor shots all game long resulting in his putrid sub 30% FG% on 10 shots a game and gambles a lot on defense. JJ just keeps shooting even though he is struggling and he just needs to tighten his game up a bit. I know his job is to create chaos, but he is much more effective when it is controlled chaos. Our guards need to slow the game down and create controlled chaos and they will get that much better. That is the same problem Shved has. He just doesn't make the smart play and stay in control. It just goes such a long way when guys make the right play even if it isn't flashy and trying to push the tempo. That is why guys like CP3 (same with Nash in his Phoenix days) are the best at the position. He is in control on every play and surgically takes the other team apart. That would be the best thing Ricky could do. Become a surgeon over being a chaos machine. That is the next step all our guards need to take to make us that much better.

I don't agree that we need to slow the game down, khans...I think since we added Corey, this club plays best when they are going full bore. Look at the stats: we are tied with the Clippers (with the ball in CP3's hands most of the time) for 12th in fewest turnovers, and with our wide open play, we are top three in turnover differential. I love the pace this club is playing at and want it to continue. Only OKC is causing more turnovers a game.

[TAFKASP]

Kahns, Ricky is dishing out 10 assists per game with any number of should be assists bobbled by the rest of the team while turning the ball over 3 times a game and thats a problem? Any PG who handles the ball as much as Rubio is going to have 3 turnovers per game at least. The ONLY problem with Rubio's game is his shot.

[bleedspeed]

Honestly we just need to watch the D-League. There are always a handful of players that can help fill out a bench available there. I think Hummel, ShaBazz, and Gieng should get so minutes down there.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

I guess we differ on our offensive philosophy because I see a team that lacks athleticism that is just going to get tired by the end of the year running this much. You thought we had nagging injuries before, what do you think is going to happen to Love and Pek as the year goes on and we keep up this pace? They aren't built to run. We have 4 starters playing over 33 minutes a game and that is skewed low by some of the blowouts allowing them to rest more than usual. I think the second unit can run with D Will, DC and the guards, but it's going to be pretty tough on Love and Pek by the end of the year if the starters are going to run this much. We have 4 legitimate options on offense for the starting group so why not dominate in the half court and keep the bigs from getting worn out when it counts at the end of the year. Part of the problem with not making the playoffs for so long is these guys don't know how much to keep in the tank for the playoffs and that could lead to an early exit if we don't tone it down a little bit.

[TheGrey08]

Agreed about Rubios game. His shot is the weakness. He's still young and naturally will turn it over a bit especially with the style of game he plays. You also have to look at his assist to turnover ratio not just turnovers alone.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

I guess we differ on our offensive philosophy because I see a team that lacks athleticism that is just going to get tired by the end of the year running this much. You thought we had nagging injuries before, what do you think is going to happen to Love and Pek as the year goes on and we keep up this pace? They aren't built to run. We have 4 starters playing over 33 minutes a game and that is skewed low by some of the blowouts allowing them to rest more than usual. I think the second unit can run with D Will, DC and the guards, but it's going to be pretty tough on Love and Pek by the end of the year if the starters are going to run this much. We have 4 legitimate options on offense for the starting group so why not dominate in the half court and keep the bigs from getting worn out when it counts at the end of the year. Part of the problem with not making the playoffs for so long is these guys don't know how much to keep in the tank for the playoffs and that could lead to an early exit if we don't tone it down a little bit.

You raise a valid concern about this team not being built to run as much as they have been, khans. It showed last night in their tired legs, which contributed to their horrible shooting. I see them as having two options here: either slow down the pace, or start giving more minutes to the bench. I'm a proponent of the latter in the early part of the season, because it's been so much fun to watch Corey, Derrick et al running the court in a very un-Wolves like fashion. But you're right...that style will wear them down if they don't start giving more minutes to their reserves. I happen to think Shabazz might flourish in a fast-paced offense.

[ahughes53 [enjin:6639223]]

Shved looks less and less like an NBA rotation player with each passing game. The thing about it is, Shabazz didn't show any signs in the game at the Thunder or in the summer league to offer up any hope that he can contribute anymore. I told my one friend who follows the NBA closely as well that the most disturbing trend I noticed with him is his floater. He seemed to favor it in a lot of situations when at UCLA and he did it when he had the chance to go strong to the hoop against the Thunder. He's a long, strong player and he should be a better finisher at the rim but the eye test and statistics say that he is extremely poor in that regard. Our best bet is to just ride it out until Bud is back and have a 2/3 rotation of him, Martin, Brewer and Williams.