Flip needs to do something really important

[ace [enjin:6598567]]

He needs to grow a pair and fire Adelman. He has completely given up. How can you expect a team to fight when the coach won't? If there ever was a time to take a T, it was when JJ got called for a foul on the exact same play that had just happened on the other end. Ricky is the catalyst that makes our offense run, yet when we have trouble scoring Rick thinks the solution is to put in JJ.

The season is over if Rick stays. He doesn't care. Worst case scenario if he's fired is that the team nosedives and we get a better draft pick. Fire him now.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

I'm on board with this notion.

[worldK]

I dont see it happening. Flip wont fire adelman, flip doesnt have that in him. Not that i agree we should fire adelman.

At this point, I just want us to play the season out. We are not good enough to make the playoffs even when we try to win every game. Now that adelman is playing the rookies some minutes, we should just let him coach out the rest of the season. I dont think letting porter coach the rest of the way would serve us any good. Give rick the chance to play bazz and see how he handles him now that he is ready to give him regular rotational minutes.

On the other hand, just play rubio in the 4th rick. he needs those playing time.

[TAFKASP]

It really doesn't matter who coaches this mess. So long as their shot isn't falling they aren't winning no matter the system. I'm not defending Adelman, but really he hasn't lost his knowledge, he's just stuck with a mess of players that cannot work together.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

It really doesn't matter who coaches this mess. So long as their shot isn't falling they aren't winning no matter the system. I'm not defending Adelman, but really he hasn't lost his knowledge, he's just stuck with a mess of players that cannot work together.

He hasn't lost his knowledge, but man is he behind the times. I don't think the current NBA is anything he's capable of handling. I've defended Adelman in the past, but I'm over it. Leaving JJ in the game hoping for him to make a comeback instead of Ricky is absurd. Think he's in love with Hummel and DC. Only plays Shabazz and Dieng when he absolutely has to. HE'S a mess. We've seen this team play well and it's when Adelman doesn't have his head in his ass.

We need a change at HC no doubt about it. If we could bring in Lionel Hollins or somebody like that to finish the season, I'd be all for it. That's assuming Flip would stick with Hollins for the future. Something's gotta give. Adelman's inconsistency has spread throughout the entire team.

[Mstermisty [enjin:6864008]]

No way Adelman will be fired, but I'm definitely in the camp that says this needs to be his last year.

I actually don't have a problem with him leaving JJ in the game in the 4th, because we needed scoring and at least for part of the game JJ was pretty hot. My problem with him is letting JJ run the team. I highly doubt we were coming back anyway, but watching JJ dribble the life out of the team yet again in another 4th quarter has run its course. You would think at this point Adelman could see that we have not had ANY success with this formula. Eventually you would think the man would figure out that a square peg does not fit in a round hole!

[WildWolf2813]

Flip doesn't have it in him to fire someone midseason because he knows the feeling.

[Lipoli390]

It really doesn't matter who coaches this mess. So long as their shot isn't falling they aren't winning no matter the system. I'm not defending Adelman, but really he hasn't lost his knowledge, he's just stuck with a mess of players that cannot work together.

SP - I agree. Do I want to see a coaching change after this season? Yes. Of course, it depends who. Personally, I'm with Cam in that I'd like to see us hire Hollins. But I think some have become a little overly focused on Adelman and JJ in trying to assess blame for this disappointing season. I don't believe for a second that this team would be among the top 8 in the West if Hoiberg were our head coach and Andre Miller had JJ's spot on our roster. The blame lies with our owner and front office for assembling an inadequate and poor mix of talent. Here's a run down of our problems:

1. Horrible bench and serious lack of depth. JJ's. to the problem with our bench. The problem is that, except for JJ, no one else on our bench can score. Most are D-League caliber players.

2. Only one allstar caliber player in our starting lineup - Kevin Love. Contrast that with Portland. One allstar caliber guy goes down (Aldridge), but they have another (Lillard).

3. Overall lack of talent and lack of 2-way players in our starting lineup after Love. Portland has 2 allstar caliber players in their starting lineup, but they also have two other high caliber 2-way players in their starting lineup (Matthews and Batum). Swap Brewer and Martin for Batum and Matthews and the Wolves are among the top 8 teams in the West right now.

4. Too many jump shooters and not enough shot creators on our roster. We live and die by the jumper and lack players who can create off the dribble and score going to the rim. That's a prescription for inconsistency, which is exactly why we have a hard time stringing together a lot of wins.

5. Too many key players with a history of missing games due to injury. Pekovic has had a hard time staying on the floor ever since he started getting significant minutes here. And most of his problems have been ankle problems. This is a serious concern, especially for a key player under a 5 year $12 million per year deal. Martin has averaged less than 65 games per season over the course of his career. And he built that dubious record as a young man in his 20s. Here we are trying to salvage the season and both Pek and Martin are out for extended periods. What a shock.

6. Lack of athleticism. It showed tonight against Portland. Sometimes it looks like we're being out hustled or out worked. But really, we're just getting beat to the ball, beat to the spot or out-jumped by after, quicker more athletic teams.

So this team has some fundamental roster problems. But JJ is Barea is just a footnote in any meaningful assessment of those roster problems. And Adelman is a secondary problem.

[mjs34]

No way Adelman will be fired, but I'm definitely in the camp that says this needs to be his last year.

I actually don't have a problem with him leaving JJ in the game in the 4th, because we needed scoring and at least for part of the game JJ was pretty hot. My problem with him is letting JJ run the team. I highly doubt we were coming back anyway, but watching JJ dribble the life out of the team yet again in another 4th quarter has run its course. You would think at this point Adelman could see that we have not had ANY success with this formula. Eventually you would think the man would figure out that a square peg does not fit in a round hole!

Hard to get behind the scoring premise with JJ when Luc and Robbie are on the floor at the same time.

Why does Rick insist on setting guys up to fail? Why would anyone use DC rather than Gorgi against Lopez? Why would you sit on your ass and watch an 18 pt lead fade away without trying a different lineup? Why would you continue to watch Lillard light you up, rather than double him and force him to give the ball up.

I have to believe Rick was a good coach at one time, so why is it he seems powerless to make any changes. I am waiting to see the camera pan over to him while he is taking a nap on the bench.

[mjs34]

It really doesn't matter who coaches this mess. So long as their shot isn't falling they aren't winning no matter the system. I'm not defending Adelman, but really he hasn't lost his knowledge, he's just stuck with a mess of players that cannot work together.

SP - I agree. Do I want to see a coaching change after this season? Yes. Of course, it depends who. Personally, I'm with Cam in that I'd like to see us hire Hollins. But I think some have become a little overly focused on Adelman and JJ in trying to assess blame for this disappointing season. I don't believe for a second that this team would be among the top 8 in the West if Hoiberg were our head coach and Andre Miller had JJ's spot on our roster. The blame lies with our owner and front office for assembling an inadequate and poor mix of talent. Here's a run down of our problems:

1. Horrible bench and serious lack of depth. JJ's. to the problem with our bench. The problem is that, except for JJ, no one else on our bench can score. Most are D-League caliber players.

2. Only one allstar caliber player in our starting lineup - Kevin Love. Contrast that with Portland. One allstar caliber guy goes down (Aldridge), but they have another (Lillard).

3. Overall lack of talent and lack of 2-way players in our starting lineup after Love. Portland has 2 allstar caliber players in their starting lineup, but they also have two other high caliber 2-way players in their starting lineup (Matthews and Batum). Swap Brewer and Martin for Batum and Matthews and the Wolves are among the top 8 teams in the West right now.

4. Too many jump shooters and not enough shot creators on our roster. We live and die by the jumper and lack players who can create off the dribble and score going to the rim. That's a prescription for inconsistency, which is exactly why we have a hard time stringing together a lot of wins.

5. Too many key players with a history of missing games due to injury. Pekovic has had a hard time staying on the floor ever since he started getting significant minutes here. And most of his problems have been ankle problems. This is a serious concern, especially for a key player under a 5 year $12 million per year deal. Martin has averaged less than 65 games per season over the course of his career. And he built that dubious record as a young man in his 20s. Here we are trying to salvage the season and both Pek and Martin are out for extended periods. What a shock.

6. Lack of athleticism. It showed tonight against Portland. Sometimes it looks like we're being out hustled or out worked. But really, we're just getting beat to the ball, beat to the spot or out-jumped by after, quicker more athletic teams.

So this team has some fundamental roster problems. But JJ is Barea is just a footnote in any meaningful assessment of those roster problems. And Adelman is a secondary problem.

LIp, it sounds like you are giving Adelman a pass, but his offense is a jumpshooting drill, and these are the guys he wanted. Remember he gave Kahn a list?

The truth is that Adelman doesn't want to coach, he wants a good seat to watch the game.