Which would you prefer to keep?
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Agree with you Cam about CB being more effective at the 2. But really him and Bud are interchangeable. It would depend on defensive matchups as to who plays SG / SF. Having those two as backup wings is pretty dam good, provided Bud makes an improvement and Brewer plays like he did last season.
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I voted to keep Bennett. Young could opt out after the season and Bennett could be a decent replacement and insurance policy, provided he makes huge strides. I'm not going to judge him off his woeful rookie season. He has all the tools and it seems he's put in the hard yards this offseason. Hopefully he's not Derrick Williams 2.0!
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I voted keep Bennett and trade Miami's 1st round pick because I think Young would fit nicely with Minnesota team. I think he has similar offensive potential than Shawn Marion. Their offensive numbers are quite identical (actually I think Young's numbers are little better) if you compare their numbers before Marion was paired with Nash. I hope that Rubio would have similar effect on Young's offensive numbers.
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"The Mound of Fudge Rounds" lol I really enjoyed reading that this morning
I agree Lip trading Bud now is selling low and at this point with his injuries and 2 years left on his contract you might have to actually pay to take him especially to a team like the Sixers. On the other hand if he is healthy he becomes a worthwhile player for the Wolves as a shooter and probably gets more minutes than people may expect. If (I don't have my hopes up too high) he is healthy and playing like his old self he could be a guy we deal to a team around the deadline looking for a shooter. If that doesn't happen he could also opt out after this year which would clear a roster space. Trading Bud right now seems unlikely unless some team actully wants him which seems unlikely.
On the other hand if he isn't healthy (very possible) that opens up minutes for another guy on the wing solving part of the problem there.
Assuming we add a PF and dump the expirings the roster looks decent to me. I suppose it would be nice to have another PG but would it be so awful to have to get LaVine minutes playing there if someone gets hurt? Unless he REALLY sucks the answer is no. I don't see a reason to sign a guy just to have a guy. Besides Bennett can be that PF that can play PG ala Craig Smith. Lol The roster could be more balenced but I like that guys have different skills from each other or young/vet mix or both.
I agree Lip trading Bud now is selling low and at this point with his injuries and 2 years left on his contract you might have to actually pay to take him especially to a team like the Sixers. On the other hand if he is healthy he becomes a worthwhile player for the Wolves as a shooter and probably gets more minutes than people may expect. If (I don't have my hopes up too high) he is healthy and playing like his old self he could be a guy we deal to a team around the deadline looking for a shooter. If that doesn't happen he could also opt out after this year which would clear a roster space. Trading Bud right now seems unlikely unless some team actully wants him which seems unlikely.
On the other hand if he isn't healthy (very possible) that opens up minutes for another guy on the wing solving part of the problem there.
Assuming we add a PF and dump the expirings the roster looks decent to me. I suppose it would be nice to have another PG but would it be so awful to have to get LaVine minutes playing there if someone gets hurt? Unless he REALLY sucks the answer is no. I don't see a reason to sign a guy just to have a guy. Besides Bennett can be that PF that can play PG ala Craig Smith. Lol The roster could be more balenced but I like that guys have different skills from each other or young/vet mix or both.
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Camden0916 wrote:I keep seeing this, and I know it's minor, but why is Brewer constantly being listed as a SF and Budinger's a SG? Brewer's been better his whole career defending SGs, whereas I don't want Budinger guarding any SGs. Neither are good ball-handlers so that aspect really doesn't matter. Like I said, I know it's not a big deal at all, but I've seen it multiple times and I'd like to know what the deal is.
PG: Rubio / Williams
SG: Martin / Brewer / LaVine
SF: Wiggins / Budinger / Muhammad / Robinson
PF: Young / Bennett / Hummel
C: Pekovic / Dieng / Turiaf
That's what I expect to see by the start of the NBA season. Keep in mind playing Brewer behind Martin would ensure that Martin's minutes are kept in check. I see 30-40 wins with that team even if we do keep The Mound of Fudge Rounds (Anthony Bennett aka Baby Barkley aka The GOAT). :roll:
I am curious about this as well. Last offseason there was a small community of Wolves fans that were adamant that Budinger could not play the 2 in any circumstance. Where did they go?
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As Matt indicated, the issue of whether Brewer or Budinger plays SG rather than SF isn't a big deal. Since the SG position has the word "shooting" in it, Budinger would seem to fit that role better than Brewer. But the formal "position" in the box score doesn't really matter much.
If they are playing together, it's probably better to have Brewer guarding the opposing team's SG while Budinger guards the opposing team's SF. But even then, it depends on the match-ups. Brewer gets overpowered by a number of SFs, but Budinger doesn't muscle up very well either. Brewer is not particularly quick laterally and we can all recall the familiar sight of an opposing guard's cross-over leaving Corey sprawled on the hardwood.
I like Corey, but it's troublesome to have a SG on the floor who is statistically one of the worst 3-point shooters in the League and a below average ball-handler. Nor is he a lock-down defender. He brings energy and forces turnovers. He plays hard, runs the court well and can sometimes get hot as a scorer. Those are nice attributes to have coming off the bench. But I'm not too worried about figuring out exactly what formal position he plays versus what position Budinger plays. They are both wings with major gaps in their games. Corey is the better defender, but not a great one against either SFs or SGs. Chase is the better shooter, actually a good shooter, but not a great one. Neither one is a particularly good ball-handler, although Chase is a bit better.
I'm looking forward to the day when neither one gets more than 15 minutes per game.
If they are playing together, it's probably better to have Brewer guarding the opposing team's SG while Budinger guards the opposing team's SF. But even then, it depends on the match-ups. Brewer gets overpowered by a number of SFs, but Budinger doesn't muscle up very well either. Brewer is not particularly quick laterally and we can all recall the familiar sight of an opposing guard's cross-over leaving Corey sprawled on the hardwood.
I like Corey, but it's troublesome to have a SG on the floor who is statistically one of the worst 3-point shooters in the League and a below average ball-handler. Nor is he a lock-down defender. He brings energy and forces turnovers. He plays hard, runs the court well and can sometimes get hot as a scorer. Those are nice attributes to have coming off the bench. But I'm not too worried about figuring out exactly what formal position he plays versus what position Budinger plays. They are both wings with major gaps in their games. Corey is the better defender, but not a great one against either SFs or SGs. Chase is the better shooter, actually a good shooter, but not a great one. Neither one is a particularly good ball-handler, although Chase is a bit better.
I'm looking forward to the day when neither one gets more than 15 minutes per game.
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Only if we can somehow combine them into one player.... If we did that player might resemble oh i dont know Andrew Wiggens?
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Lip, I would prefer to see Flip move Bud if possible. His offense doesn't' make up for his lack of D, and throw the injuries on top of that and it just makes sense to move him if possible. I don't want to be throwing a pick with him to do it, but if we are truly trying to stay competitive, it makes sense imo to open up some cap space next season, and moving Bud versus a Shved or JJ does that. I see no reason to give up value to move expiring deals, when we know we have no chance of contending this season, much less anyone to spend the money on. With the Love deal holding things up on our end, we have missed out on most of the prize players already.
Let guys like Wiggins, Lavine and Bennett get a dose of minutes, and then reshape a plan for next season. Guys like Brewer, Martin, Pek, etc. can help keep the team somewhat respectable during the transition.
Let guys like Wiggins, Lavine and Bennett get a dose of minutes, and then reshape a plan for next season. Guys like Brewer, Martin, Pek, etc. can help keep the team somewhat respectable during the transition.
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lipoli390 wrote:As Matt indicated, the issue of whether Brewer or Budinger plays SG rather than SF isn't a big deal. Since the SG position has the word "shooting" in it, Budinger would seem to fit that role better than Brewer. But the formal "position" in the box score doesn't really matter much.
If they are playing together, it's probably better to have Brewer guarding the opposing team's SG while Budinger guards the opposing team's SF. But even then, it depends on the match-ups. Brewer gets overpowered by a number of SFs, but Budinger doesn't muscle up very well either. Brewer is not particularly quick laterally and we can all recall the familiar sight of an opposing guard's cross-over leaving Corey sprawled on the hardwood.
I like Corey, but it's troublesome to have a SG on the floor who is statistically one of the worst 3-point shooters in the League and a below average ball-handler. Nor is he a lock-down defender. He brings energy and forces turnovers. He plays hard, runs the court well and can sometimes get hot as a scorer. Those are nice attributes to have coming off the bench. But I'm not too worried about figuring out exactly what formal position he plays versus what position Budinger plays. They are both wings with major gaps in their games. Corey is the better defender, but not a great one against either SFs or SGs. Chase is the better shooter, actually a good shooter, but not a great one. Neither one is a particularly good ball-handler, although Chase is a bit better.
I'm looking forward to the day when neither one gets more than 15 minutes per game.
This is a very good summery except I think Brewer's lateral quickness is fine. Its how aggressive he is that can make him look bad like you describe at least in some cases. Overall though you nailed this post though.
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On another board a poster made sort of an interesting way of comparing GR3, Bennett and Shabazz saying what if GR3 came out in the draft last year when he was a possible lottery pick. Which guy helped themselves or hurt themselves more 1 year later of those 3? None of them really helped themselves much although Bazz didn't get a lot of opportunity.