Brooklyn, Cleveland, Minnesota trade...
Brooklyn, Cleveland, Minnesota trade...
First, does this trade work?
If not, what would you change?
Second, would you pull the trigger?
If not, what would make you?
Brooklyn receives:
Pekovic, Young, Hummel
Cleveland Receives:
Brewer
Minnesota receives:
J. Johnson, D. Waiters, C. Jefferson
This trade reduces salary for Brooklyn next year as Thad likely opts out, but still keeps them competitive.
Cleveland wanted Brewer and Waiters isnt doing well for them at all.
For us, we get rid of Pekovics contract and have to swallow Johnsons massive contract for 2 years. We also receive something for Young who may leave this year.
Jefferson is a young PF with range and we have one roster spot to pick up a big. It also allows us to move Martin.
Rubio, Johnson, Wiggins, Bennett, Dieng
Lavine, Waiters, Shabazz, Jefferson, Adrien ( TuriAf or FA Big changes this)
We are filled with guards/wings and short on Bigs. We aren't winning much this year anyhow and this draft is loaded at the top end with bigs. Would set us up much better in 2016.
If not, what would you change?
Second, would you pull the trigger?
If not, what would make you?
Brooklyn receives:
Pekovic, Young, Hummel
Cleveland Receives:
Brewer
Minnesota receives:
J. Johnson, D. Waiters, C. Jefferson
This trade reduces salary for Brooklyn next year as Thad likely opts out, but still keeps them competitive.
Cleveland wanted Brewer and Waiters isnt doing well for them at all.
For us, we get rid of Pekovics contract and have to swallow Johnsons massive contract for 2 years. We also receive something for Young who may leave this year.
Jefferson is a young PF with range and we have one roster spot to pick up a big. It also allows us to move Martin.
Rubio, Johnson, Wiggins, Bennett, Dieng
Lavine, Waiters, Shabazz, Jefferson, Adrien ( TuriAf or FA Big changes this)
We are filled with guards/wings and short on Bigs. We aren't winning much this year anyhow and this draft is loaded at the top end with bigs. Would set us up much better in 2016.
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Re: Brooklyn, Cleveland, Minnesota trade...
I don't think anyone takes Pek. Especially a team with another oft-injured center making the max. Our best offer would be Thad, Martin and Bud or Brewer to hopefully get the salaries close enough for Joe Johnson. I don't think they do that because they don't save much unless Thad and Bud opt out and leave. I don't want Waiters any more. I just think he will be a career volume guy on a bad team which is not what we want moving forward. He hasn't been able to contribute much around their big 3 and isn't a great team player overall to begin with. If we could get Joe for those three I would absolutely do it because we clear out the clutter while getting a veteran who would be a respected leader out of the gate for us because of how good he has been in his career. He could be a secondary ball handler next to Ricky and is more than capable of guarding the opposing teams third best perimeter guy. His production is a little down this year, but I think he'd be a solid veteran to add to this young team. It would also open up the roster spots to reload at PG and in the front court moving forward this year.
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Re: Brooklyn, Cleveland, Minnesota trade...
Martin and Young for Johnson seems way too steep for my liking, honestly. I wouldn't do that one.
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Re: Brooklyn, Cleveland, Minnesota trade...
I don't think Young is re-signing with us so I don't see giving him up as a problem. Why would he re-sign with us? Why would we pay him a lot of money when his game is so flawed and doesn't fit next to our Center who is on the books for 3 more years after this one? Martin for Joe Johnson is an upgrade for what we need in terms of leadership and more of a two-way play style. Brewer and Bud are bench guys that I think get replaced by Lavine and Bazz just fine so I don't care if either of them go. I would prefer Bud to go, but if it took Corey I would do it. If the end result of the Love trade is Wiggins, Bennett and Johnson, I'd think Flip did an even better job than he already has.
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Re: Brooklyn, Cleveland, Minnesota trade...
Brooklyn is currently the 8th seed and still in the playoffs so I dont see them doing THIS trade. I think moving Deron Williams is their priority now that AK is out. Now if injuries plague them down the stretch that trade deadline might open options.
Chances that this trade happens 0%
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Re: Brooklyn, Cleveland, Minnesota trade...
Brandon BassHole wrote:Brooklyn is currently the 8th seed and still in the playoffs so I dont see them doing THIS trade. I think moving Deron Williams is their priority now that AK is out. Now if injuries plague them down the stretch that trade deadline might open options.
Chances that this trade happens 0%
I'd disagree. I think out of their "big three" deron Williams would be the last one they'd try to trade.
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Re: Brooklyn, Cleveland, Minnesota trade...
If I am trading with Brooklyn. I want to dump Bud's contract. I would throw Martin in to make it happen and take back KG. He expires at the end of the year and would be an upgrade at backup center while Pek is out. It might even be best to just shut down Pek for the year and hope rest fixes whatever is wrong.
I hate giving up Martin, but really think Lavine is our SG moving forward. Watching him play he is managing to play PG, but he would be much better off the ball more and instead of trying to run the offense all of the time he would be able to play more in attack mode. He also would be perfect backcourt with Rubio defensively, because he can guard the fast guys better with his athletic ability.
I hate giving up Martin, but really think Lavine is our SG moving forward. Watching him play he is managing to play PG, but he would be much better off the ball more and instead of trying to run the offense all of the time he would be able to play more in attack mode. He also would be perfect backcourt with Rubio defensively, because he can guard the fast guys better with his athletic ability.
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Re: Brooklyn, Cleveland, Minnesota trade...
I don't see them trading KG. They are in salary cutting mode and KG is a big expiring deal. I don't see them taking on any long-term salary in a deal unless it is cheaper than the long-term salary they are trading away hence them reportedly looking for deals involving their 3 max players.
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Re: Brooklyn, Cleveland, Minnesota trade...
khans2k5 wrote:I don't see them trading KG. They are in salary cutting mode and KG is a big expiring deal. I don't see them taking on any long-term salary in a deal unless it is cheaper than the long-term salary they are trading away hence them reportedly looking for deals involving their 3 max players.
I think you are right about that, but if we are not cutting salary then what is the point. They might not be the right trade partner.
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Re: Brooklyn, Cleveland, Minnesota trade...
Any one of their big 3 would be better than any FA we could get to join this team this offseason. That's a win in my book. It's highly improbable, but you never know how much they'd want to get that cap number down moving forward. I think they still make the playoffs if they turn one of their big 3 into a combination of Pek, Thad, Martin, Bud and Brewer.