SAC shopping D Williams

[mjs34]

I read on Hoopshype that they believe SAC is shopping DW. Would it be worth it for the wolves to offer up Bud and Robbie for him. DW has an expiring deal at the end of the season so we could get out of Bud's deal a year early, open up another roster spot for a PG, and DW could give spot minutes at the 4 at least on a level with Robbie.

[Phenom]

I like Robbie better, honestly. Derrick still doesn't get it. He is still out there playing pick up ball.

[kekgeek]

I read on Hoopshype that they believe SAC is shopping DW. Would it be worth it for the wolves to offer up Bud and Robbie for him. DW has an expiring deal at the end of the season so we could get out of Bud's deal a year early, open up another roster spot for a PG, and DW could give spot minutes at the 4 at least on a level with Robbie.

Robbie Hummel is twice the player dwill is. Also bud is an interesting case for next year, he has a player option for 5 mil he won't get paid that much by anyone else but does he want to sit in on the bench for a whole year again

[mjs34]

Robbie Hummel is a horrible player, with no skills, and no athleticism. That is what DW has become as well. This isn't about those players, because if either are on the floor we are losing BB games. It is about getting rid of Bud's 5 mil and opening another roster spot. Neither guy should be seeing the floor unless we have significant injuries.

I realize everyone loves Robbie as a person and hustle guy, but he doesn't help us win BB games.

Bud will be sitting on the bench regardless of where he goes. He is currently on one of the worst teams in the league.

[Monster]

If the best Sac can do is Bud they might as well just keep Williams and let him go at the end of the year instead of likely having to pay Bud next year. My guess is the Kings are hoping Williams decent production this season age etc might make some team give up something decent for him or maybe for a guy that fits their needs better whatever that is.

[WildWolf2813]

I'd do it.

In a perfect world, none of these guys would be Wolves past this season, but a trade like this would guarantee it.

[kekgeek]

Robbie Hummel is a horrible player, with no skills, and no athleticism. That is what DW has become as well. This isn't about those players, because if either are on the floor we are losing BB games. It is about getting rid of Bud's 5 mil and opening another roster spot. Neither guy should be seeing the floor unless we have significant injuries.

I realize everyone loves Robbie as a person and hustle guy, but he doesn't help us win BB games.

Bud will be sitting on the bench regardless of where he goes. He is currently on one of the worst teams in the league.

I disagree so strongly to this Hummel is not a terrible player. He is probably are second best defensive player this year

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

SJM, Your insistence that Hummel is a useless NBA player is about as irrational at this point as Porkchop's ranting about Rubio.

Robbie is not paid to go toe-to-toe with the NBA's top forwards night in and night out. He's a very low-cost bench guy that Flip can put in there and trust that he understands the game, hustles, and generally makes the right decisions.

There is a reason why Robbie's net On-Off rating is positive for a second straight season.

Edit: I just looked up Derrick Williams Net +/- ratings. He's never had a season when it's been positive, including this year. In other words, his teams are always worse when he's on the floor versus off of it.

[Phenom]

Im gonna stick with Robbie. He knows how to play to a team concept on both sides of the floor and does not force things. He is the anti-Williams in every way and that is a good end of the bench player to have.

[mjs34]

SJM, Your insistence that Hummel is a useless NBA player is about as irrational at this point as Porkchop's ranting about Rubio.

Robbie is not paid to go toe-to-toe with the NBA's top forwards night in and night out. He's a very low-cost bench guy that Flip can put in there and trust that he .

There is a reason why Robbie's net On-Off rating is positive for a second straight season.

Edit: I just looked up Derrick Williams Net +/- ratings. He's never had a season when it's been positive, including this year. In other words, his teams are always worse when he's on the floor versus off of it.

There is nothing irrational about it. I can find a 16 year old that "understands the game, hustles, and generally makes the right decisions", but that doesn't mean he can be productive player in the NBA.

Net on-off ratings are a stat based on ten players on the floor. Robbie doesn't play enough to put any stock in that stat whatsoever.

You are right he is a low cost guy, but he isn't big enough to guard PF's, and he isn't quick enough to guard SF's, hell he isn't quick enough to guard PF's! He gave up about 3 "and 1's" against the lakers, and had zero chance of stopping the player from scoring on any of them. That isn't making the right decision, and nobody is asking him to go toe-toe with the top PF's. I am looking for a guy that can actually guard his position. Robbie is a poor shooter, has no post up game, can't dribble the ball, and has hard time not falling down when trying to run full speed.